Quote from: Ads on July 17, 2015, 11:17:16 PMThis is the first summer to be excited about in a long time. £9 million on a midfielder, £10 million on the next French left back; genuine ambition in our targets, back room staff to ensure the mistakes of the past aren't repeated.Every club loses players, even their best ones. If Man United can have them taken, so can we. This isn't a phenomena of the modern game either.I have a belief that we will quite comfortably replace Delph, while if we get even half the player of Benteke, our scouts will have worked some magic.I share your sentiment Ads
This is the first summer to be excited about in a long time. £9 million on a midfielder, £10 million on the next French left back; genuine ambition in our targets, back room staff to ensure the mistakes of the past aren't repeated.Every club loses players, even their best ones. If Man United can have them taken, so can we. This isn't a phenomena of the modern game either.I have a belief that we will quite comfortably replace Delph, while if we get even half the player of Benteke, our scouts will have worked some magic.
Another Villa shambles, laced with the usual mix of incompetence and lies. I agree with all the sentiments expressed about the state of the English game, and its money obsessed lack of morality, but ask yourselves this question; why does this sort of thing keep happening to the Villa? The club is dying through serial mis-management. We've got a hopeless and semi-detached owner who can't even sell the club in a semi-competent way. Every transfer we try and undertake is nearly always botched or takes five weeks to complete. We can't seem to negotiate contracts with our better players without them and their agents inserting release and escape clauses. We can't get rid of the dross, players bought for ludicrous transfer fees and put on ridiculous long term and lucrative contracts, and we can't attract quality players. Every close season is a fiasco with all the talk concentrated on who's leaving. We never get on the front foot, it's always negative and defensive fire-fighting. Utterly hopeless, and before we round on Delph and Benteke, the real culprit, the almost impossibly useless Randy Lerner, sits in his faraway mansion fiddling while his club burns.I leave you with this thought. What decision or action has Lerner taken these last five disastrous years that has proved to be a good and insightful one and that has benefited our club? This is the man who gave us McLeish and Lambert ,remember, and has presided over the most calamitous run of results in the history of the club. Not one bad year, five dreadful ones on the trot. Nothing remotely good will happen at the Villa until the worst owner and Chairman we've ever had lets the club out of his death grip. The Delph fiasco is typical of the club that Lerner has tragically allowed the Villa to become.
It will help if we unveil some signings next week. A rabbit out of the hat would go a way to brightening the mood too, an attacking player with a good reputation, someone we can get behind, a new hero.
Quote from: warleyboy on July 17, 2015, 11:24:22 PMIts at times like these I appreciate the Steve Bulls, Steven Gerards, Ian Taylor's, gabby Agbonlahors of this world.And for all gabbys bad points, at least he has stood in the holte as a young lad, and stayed committed to the cause.You really think the first and third of those would have stayed loyal now, when they could double their wages with one signature?
Its at times like these I appreciate the Steve Bulls, Steven Gerards, Ian Taylor's, gabby Agbonlahors of this world.And for all gabbys bad points, at least he has stood in the holte as a young lad, and stayed committed to the cause.
Quote from: Dave Pountney on July 17, 2015, 08:48:35 PMAnother Villa shambles, laced with the usual mix of incompetence and lies. I agree with all the sentiments expressed about the state of the English game, and its money obsessed lack of morality, but ask yourselves this question; why does this sort of thing keep happening to the Villa? The club is dying through serial mis-management. We've got a hopeless and semi-detached owner who can't even sell the club in a semi-competent way. Every transfer we try and undertake is nearly always botched or takes five weeks to complete. We can't seem to negotiate contracts with our better players without them and their agents inserting release and escape clauses. We can't get rid of the dross, players bought for ludicrous transfer fees and put on ridiculous long term and lucrative contracts, and we can't attract quality players. Every close season is a fiasco with all the talk concentrated on who's leaving. We never get on the front foot, it's always negative and defensive fire-fighting. Utterly hopeless, and before we round on Delph and Benteke, the real culprit, the almost impossibly useless Randy Lerner, sits in his faraway mansion fiddling while his club burns.I leave you with this thought. What decision or action has Lerner taken these last five disastrous years that has proved to be a good and insightful one and that has benefited our club? This is the man who gave us McLeish and Lambert ,remember, and has presided over the most calamitous run of results in the history of the club. Not one bad year, five dreadful ones on the trot. Nothing remotely good will happen at the Villa until the worst owner and Chairman we've ever had lets the club out of his death grip. The Delph fiasco is typical of the club that Lerner has tragically allowed the Villa to become.Hear hear!
Quote from: Dave Pountney on July 17, 2015, 09:14:52 PM"Youre talking crap mateAgree re Mcleish but we all wanted Lambert at the time. Randy was fleeced by Pube head and rightly has reigned in the spending. We would have been bust otherwise.The Delph issue is down to the player himself. The club are blameless"You don't get it, do you? Delph is no better or worse a person than your average Premiership player. In fact, he comes over as a likeable and genuine bloke whenever I've heard him speak. He just didn't want to carry on playing for the Villa and somebody made him a better offer. Lerner is the common thread that runs through the club's disastrous decline into irrelevance.On the first point I've highlighted, I would say that it seems to me that he DID want to carry on playing for Villa BUT someone made him a better offer.On the second point I've highlighted, you seem to have forgotten that we were a pretty disastrous irrelevance just before Lerner got here. In fact, the summer before he arrived I was was certain we were to be relegated the following season. A certainty that I am strangely nowhere near feeling now. i'm not saying we won't get relegated, but the idea this is a Lerner based phenomenon is completely false. We were in decline well before he got here. The illusion that we weren't is only created by the fact that he reversed it for a while.
"Youre talking crap mateAgree re Mcleish but we all wanted Lambert at the time. Randy was fleeced by Pube head and rightly has reigned in the spending. We would have been bust otherwise.The Delph issue is down to the player himself. The club are blameless"You don't get it, do you? Delph is no better or worse a person than your average Premiership player. In fact, he comes over as a likeable and genuine bloke whenever I've heard him speak. He just didn't want to carry on playing for the Villa and somebody made him a better offer. Lerner is the common thread that runs through the club's disastrous decline into irrelevance.
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