Whats the point ?

[adrenachrome]

I've had a season ticket on and off since the 1960s and my son joined me in 1990. This season we haven't  renewed. I have no faith/belief in the stewardship of Randy and his management team. The leadership skills at the Club, seemingly at all levels, are non-existent: in fact it reminds me of the classic appraisal comments about an army officer, "His men follow him more out of curiosity than necessity."

However, I will book a guided tour of Villa Park for myself, my son, his girlfriend and her little sister. It will remind me of what a wonderful stadium and history the Villa has. We'll try and get a couple of games in this season but they will have to be at 3.00pm on Saturday.

Oh and the Premier League, the media, the Delphs of this world, the gormless FA, can all Foxtrot Oscar - See Abdul the taxidermist - Go forth and multiply.

Sad to see you go, newtonsballs, but your argument has cogency.

[Nii Lamptey]

On the second point I've highlighted, you seem to have forgotten that we were a pretty disastrous irrelevance just before Lerner got here. In fact, the summer before he arrived I was was certain we were to be relegated the following season. A certainty that I am strangely nowhere near feeling now. i'm not saying we won't get relegated, but the idea this is a Lerner based phenomenon is completely false. We were in decline well before he got here. The illusion that we weren't is only created by the fact that he reversed it for a while.

I had that same feeling of nailed on relegation the year before Lerner and MOL came in. I have that same feeling now.

We have lost the 2 players that kept us up last season, we've flirted with it for a few years now, and it would be just Villa's luck to final meet our demise in the same summer that the new TV cash is flashed at everyone.

[Ads]

This is the first summer to be excited about in a long time. £9 million on a midfielder, £10 million on the next French left back; genuine ambition in our targets, back room staff to ensure the mistakes of the past aren't repeated.

Every club loses players, even their best ones. If Man United can have them taken, so can we. This isn't a phenomena of the modern game either.

I have a belief that we will quite comfortably replace Delph, while if we get even half the player of Benteke, our scouts will have worked some magic.

[lovejoy]

One day the sun will consume the solar system and none of it will matter.

Three nanoseconds before we win the FA cup.

And in that moment, we will concede.

[IFWaters]

My original point is i blame the footballers. Granted Randy has made a royal mess out of the last few seasons but thats just adding to our bad luckin this situation. I read Delph's statement and I smell horseshit. The same old chance to test myself drivel trotted out every time and were supposed to lap it up. It makes no difference to his England chances in fact id argue it makes them worse. So what is it Fabian ?
A ) chance to win medals - ego then.
B) money - i'd respect you if you admitted it.
C) you were unhappy with something -well bloody say so - perhaps the takeover falling through.

You owe us an answer Fabian, my son deserves better than this.

I dont agree with its always been this way , its got worse. I grew up in Derby in the 70s when they won the league twice. That would never happen now for them let alone us and we are the biggest club in the midlands. I just think its desperately sad that the game has been taken over by those in it for themselves rather than those trying to be part of a team.

[warleyboy]

Its at times like these I appreciate the Steve Bulls, Steven Gerards, Ian Taylor's, gabby Agbonlahors of this world.
And for all gabbys bad points, at least he has stood in the holte as a young lad, and stayed committed to the cause.

[dave.woodhall]

Its at times like these I appreciate the Steve Bulls, Steven Gerards, Ian Taylor's, gabby Agbonlahors of this world.
And for all gabbys bad points, at least he has stood in the holte as a young lad, and stayed committed to the cause.

You really think the first and third of those would have stayed loyal now, when they could double their wages with one signature?

[Brend'Watkins]

This is the first summer to be excited about in a long time. £9 million on a midfielder, £10 million on the next French left back; genuine ambition in our targets, back room staff to ensure the mistakes of the past aren't repeated.

Every club loses players, even their best ones. If Man United can have them taken, so can we. This isn't a phenomena of the modern game either.

I have a belief that we will quite comfortably replace Delph, while if we get even half the player of Benteke, our scouts will have worked some magic.

I kind of agree with you regarding the last point but with the exception of the keeper we will likely be starting the season without the spine of our team containing our two most influential players. Sherwood may work wonders with new recruits but it's a tall order to expect them all to be the real deal from the off.

I comfort myself in the fact that even with that spine we only just managed to avoid the drop. Maybe the change and shake up is what we need to progress.  I really hope so.

[DaventryVillain]

Long, long time reader and used to post many moons ago. Anyhow, felt the need to post again tonight. When I got home earlier I was the same as you all, gutted, pissed off and then totally disillusioned about all things football. I fully agree with what everyone's said about modern football and the modern footballer, 100%, I hate it as much as everyone else who remembers it before Sky and the premier league. BUT, I support a football CLUB, not a player, not a team, not a balance sheet. My club today has taken a knock and will do again in a couple of days when that other player leaves, but its taken knocks before and has come back stronger and will do again. I have always felt pride telling people I support Aston Villa and will continue wearing the colours no matter what.

The point is: we belong to a club with history, we belong to a club with class, we belong to Aston Villa Football Club

And I wouldn't change it for anything!!

[Ads]

A spine so good it finished 17th, 16th and 15th the last three seasons.

[Doorbell]

This is the first summer to be excited about in a long time. £9 million on a midfielder, £10 million on the next French left back; genuine ambition in our targets, back room staff to ensure the mistakes of the past aren't repeated.

Every club loses players, even their best ones. If Man United can have them taken, so can we. This isn't a phenomena of the modern game either.

I have a belief that we will quite comfortably replace Delph, while if we get even half the player of Benteke, our scouts will have worked some magic.

I share your sentiment Ads

[OzVilla]

I'll always support Aston Villa FC. The Delph's of this world are irrelevant to my support for this club.

I do hate what the modern game has become though.

[newtonsballs]

I've had a season ticket on and off since the 1960s and my son joined me in 1990. This season we haven't  renewed. I have no faith/belief in the stewardship of Randy and his management team. The leadership skills at the Club, seemingly at all levels, are non-existent: in fact it reminds me of the classic appraisal comments about an army officer, "His men follow him more out of curiosity than necessity."

However, I will book a guided tour of Villa Park for myself, my son, his girlfriend and her little sister. It will remind me of what a wonderful stadium and history the Villa has. We'll try and get a couple of games in this season but they will have to be at 3.00pm on Saturday.

Oh and the Premier League, the media, the Delphs of this world, the gormless FA, can all Foxtrot Oscar - See Abdul the taxidermist - Go forth and multiply.

Sad to see you go, newtonsballs, but your argument has cogency.

Thanks for your comments. I will, of course, continue to post facile comments on here and subscribe to the DW's e-fanzine (I dread the knock on the door/ email).

[Toronto Villa]

I'll always support Aston Villa FC. The Delph's of this world are irrelevant to my support for this club.

I do hate what the modern game has become though.

it's not the modern game though. This kind of stuff has happened to other clubs before. Players have betrayed clubs and fans. It's just shit when it happens to us. And if the money existed 15-20 years ago like it does today it would have happened a lot more.

[ciggiesnbeer]

This is the first summer to be excited about in a long time. £9 million on a midfielder, £10 million on the next French left back; genuine ambition in our targets, back room staff to ensure the mistakes of the past aren't repeated.

Every club loses players, even their best ones. If Man United can have them taken, so can we. This isn't a phenomena of the modern game either.

I have a belief that we will quite comfortably replace Delph, while if we get even half the player of Benteke, our scouts will have worked some magic.

Keep talking. I want to be turned around. This is a good start and makes sense.