Youth, Reserves and Ladies 2015-16

[dave shelley]

Here's the video for anyone who's interested - http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/watch-the-18-man-brawl-which-marred-a-game-between-aston-villa-and-west-hams-u21-teams/52050

The referee was wrong.  Both of Toner's tackles were hard but fair.

[Mister E]

The Wet spammers caused the ruck, and then continued it long after the incident. As a qualified ref, I'd say that at least one of the oppo should have gone as well; probably the lad who ran over to Toner at first and shoved him hard.

[paul_e]

The Wet spammers caused the ruck, and then continued it long after the incident. As a qualified ref, I'd say that at least one of the oppo should have gone as well; probably the lad who ran over to Toner at first and shoved him hard.

Exactly, either he goes as well or no one does, the west ham 6 is lucky not to get anything either because he's the one that kicks off the 2nd round of it.

[Villa in Denmark]

Here's the video for anyone who's interested - http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/watch-the-18-man-brawl-which-marred-a-game-between-aston-villa-and-west-hams-u21-teams/52050

The referee was wrong.  Both of Toner's tackles were hard but fair.

For me the salient points are
1. He plays the ball both times.
2. He's in control of his body, he's not recklessly flying in.
3. The West Ham player makes the second tackle look worse because he dives out of the way when he realises that he's not going to get anywhere near the ball.
4. The referee allows the fact that the West Ham players run up to start a ruck colour his view of what's happened.

[Mister E]

And, I didn't see the ref comsult with his linesman who had a ringside view of it all. The Asst should have stepped in to pick out the offending spammer.

[b23]

Here's the video for anyone who's interested - http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/watch-the-18-man-brawl-which-marred-a-game-between-aston-villa-and-west-hams-u21-teams/52050

The referee was wrong.  Both of Toner's tackles were hard but fair.

Hard, but fair, is right.

I hope he plays at Man Utd this weekend.

[paul_e]

Here's the video for anyone who's interested - http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/watch-the-18-man-brawl-which-marred-a-game-between-aston-villa-and-west-hams-u21-teams/52050

The referee was wrong.  Both of Toner's tackles were hard but fair.

Hard, but fair, is right.

I hope he plays at Man Utd this weekend.

Well in theory he'll be banned so no chance.

[Walmley_Villa]

I posted on Twitter "I wonder if the club or team captains turned up to support the young lads?"....

[b23]

Here's the video for anyone who's interested - http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/watch-the-18-man-brawl-which-marred-a-game-between-aston-villa-and-west-hams-u21-teams/52050

The referee was wrong.  Both of Toner's tackles were hard but fair.

Hard, but fair, is right.

I hope he plays at Man Utd this weekend.

Well in theory he'll be banned so no chance.

 

[kiddylion]

Saw Lewis Kinsella play for Kidderminster against Halifax tonight,had a really good game & looked well above that level.
The KH regulars I know rate him more than Toner who was on loan there earlier in the season.

[cdbearsfan]

Kinsella is two years older, in fairness to Toner.

[Dave Cooper please]

Do sendings off in U-21s mean you the player is banned from 1st team football as well?
If so then in theory it should work the other way round, if, say, Ayew was sent off at Man Utd then any U-21 games played after that should count towards his three game ban because he could have been picked for that game.

[paul_e]

Do sendings off in U-21s mean you the player is banned from 1st team football as well?
If so then in theory it should work the other way round, if, say, Ayew was sent off at Man Utd then any U-21 games played after that should count towards his three game ban because he could have been picked for that game.

I'm actually not sure but I just seem to remember someone missing a game after being sent off for a reserves a few years back.

[in exile]

Do sendings off in U-21s mean you the player is banned from 1st team football as well?
If so then in theory it should work the other way round, if, say, Ayew was sent off at Man Utd then any U-21 games played after that should count towards his three game ban because he could have been picked for that game.

I'm actually not sure but I just seem to remember someone missing a game after being sent off for a reserves a few years back.

From memory, it's a ban from ALL football

[cdbearsfan]

Do sendings off in U-21s mean you the player is banned from 1st team football as well?
If so then in theory it should work the other way round, if, say, Ayew was sent off at Man Utd then any U-21 games played after that should count towards his three game ban because he could have been picked for that game.

I think you get a ban from all football until three first team games have been played, even friendlies and testimonials unless you get dispensation from the FA.