Best ever Brummie player?

[berneboy]

John Devey.

Now you can close the thread.

Aye, I remember our Jack very well. Captain of the Villa through 5 League championship wins, not to mention the FA Cups. I were only a lad, mind.
Bern aged 130 (and still going strong).

[oldhill_avfc]

By far and away Gary Shaw. If we're stretching into Greater Birmingham then Duncan Edwards would get a shout.

Does Greater Birmingham exist?

Even if does then Dudley will never, ever, be part of it.

Why not? I've lived here for about a year now and I'd have thought it was exactly the sort of place that would form part of a Greater Birmingham, if it ever happened.

You've kind of pointed out why your opinion doesn't count as you've only lived there a year.

[cdbearsfan]

Billy Walker is our highest ever scorer so must be a contender.

Wednesbury born and bred. Black Country . Nothing to do with Birmingham. Its John Devey for me. Born in Newtown Birmingham and died in Birmingham.

If it has a Birmingham postcode, it's in Birmingham.

Wednesbury's got a Walsall postcode ay it?

Bugger. You've ruined my latest attempt at annoying the Yam Yam contingent.

Still comes under the dreadfully-named West Midlands Combined Authority so it's effectively Greater Birmingham.

[AVH87]

By far and away Gary Shaw. If we're stretching into Greater Birmingham then Duncan Edwards would get a shout.

Does Greater Birmingham exist?

Even if does then Dudley will never, ever, be part of it.

Why not? I've lived here for about a year now and I'd have thought it was exactly the sort of place that would form part of a Greater Birmingham, if it ever happened.

You've kind of pointed out why your opinion doesn't count as you've only lived there a year.

Charming. Why not answer the point rather than telling somebody their opinion doesn't count?

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

If it has a Birmingham postcode, it's in Birmingham.

What about the SY postcode ?
That sort of logic means Aberystwyth is in England, unless Shrewsbury is in Wales.

[cdbearsfan]

Normal rules don't apply to strange border hinterlands.

[Ron Manager]

John Devey achievements. Our captain when we were world famous as a football club.The best British baseball player in our championship winning year 1890.A Warwickshire batsman of merit with a high score of 247 against Derbyshire.

Absolutely no contest.

[dave.woodhall]

John Devey achievements. Our captain when we were world famous as a football club.The best British baseball player in our championship winning year 1890.A Warwickshire batsman of merit with a high score of 247 against Derbyshire.

Absolutely no contest.

Gary Shaw achievements:

"More women than I scored goals. I scored 23 goals." Can John Devey beat that?

[oldhill_avfc]

By far and away Gary Shaw. If we're stretching into Greater Birmingham then Duncan Edwards would get a shout.

Does Greater Birmingham exist?

Even if does then Dudley will never, ever, be part of it.

Why not? I've lived here for about a year now and I'd have thought it was exactly the sort of place that would form part of a Greater Birmingham, if it ever happened.

You've kind of pointed out why your opinion doesn't count as you've only lived there a year.

Charming. Why not answer the point rather than telling somebody their Kopinion doesn't count?

If you don't understand you don't deserve to live here.

[TopDeck113]

I remember during the Shilton-or-Clemence debate of the later 70s, one of my teachers saying that neither was a patch on the best two goalkeepers he'd ever seen play in the flesh: Gil Merrick and Lev Yashin. 

[Ron Manager]

I remember during the Shilton-or-Clemence debate of the later 70s, one of my teachers saying that neither was a patch on the best two goalkeepers he'd ever seen play in the flesh: Gil Merrick and Lev Yashin.

Yashin always played in all black.Highly respected in world football.

[MorrisNielson]

Jack Devey for me, got his hands on many tin pots in his time. I can't think of anyone else that won as many honours as him.
Also, you could make a case that he could have more goals for Villa than any other player. Certainly more than Billy Walker & Harry Hampton. Its just that no one counts the local cups (Birmingham Senior Cup, Birmingham Charity Cup, etc) & friendly games!

As a side note, honorary mentions to Bert Freeman & Dicky Davis who both where top scorers in Division One at some point. Both with Villa connections, Bert had a brief spell around 1905 & Dicky guested for Villa during WWII.

[Oscar Arce]

From players I have seen, the best Villa Brummie players (born in Birmingham) in order, statistically and by preference:
Gary Shaw
Mark Walters
Darius Vassell
Gabby Agbonlahor
Gary Thompson
Keith Leonard
Brian Small
Lew Chatterley
Alan Deakin
Jack Grealish
Steve Hunt
Luke Moore
Mike Tindall
Colin Withers
Craig and Gary Gardner, John Deehan and Lee Hendrie were born in Solihull.

[castlefields_villan]

I remember during the Shilton-or-Clemence debate of the later 70s, one of my teachers saying that neither was a patch on the best two goalkeepers he'd ever seen play in the flesh: Gil Merrick and Lev Yashin.

Yashin always played in all black.Highly respected in world football.

Yashin was before my time, although I can just about remember him in the 1966 World Cup, but for me Gordon Banks will always be the best keeper I've seen - he must have made the occasional mistake - the key thing was, as a big game player, he never made them in big games.

[AVH87]

By far and away Gary Shaw. If we're stretching into Greater Birmingham then Duncan Edwards would get a shout.

Does Greater Birmingham exist?

Even if does then Dudley will never, ever, be part of it.

Why not? I've lived here for about a year now and I'd have thought it was exactly the sort of place that would form part of a Greater Birmingham, if it ever happened.

You've kind of pointed out why your opinion doesn't count as you've only lived there a year.

Charming. Why not answer the point rather than telling somebody their Kopinion doesn't count?

If you don't understand you don't deserve to live here.

Bit precious aren't you old bean. I'll ask my other half, see if she 'understands' as she's from round here, if she doesn't I'll tell her she doesn't deserve to live here anymore.