Tom Cleverley - Now signed for Everton

[Dave]

What a waste of a season for us if he was never going to sign. We should have been playing our young guys instead of giving this guy valuable match time just for him to get his confidence back and then fcuk off.

Those two match-winning goals were quite useful.

Had he not scored those then we could have given lots of our younger players plenty of experience and game time in the Championship next season.

[john2710]

Let's face it, is anyone seriously that bothered that Cleverley is going to Everton?

No doubt he gets the £50k / wk & a hefty signing on fee but he is exceptionally mediocre. It's only because we compare him to the likes of Silla & El Ahmadi that he looks OK.

Never really wanted to be here & his performances up to March showed it.

[Le Lapin]

What a waste of a season for us if he was never going to sign. We should have been playing our young guys instead of giving this guy valuable match time just for him to get his confidence back and then fcuk off.

Those two match-winning goals were quite useful.

Had he not scored those then we could have given lots of our younger players plenty of experience and game time in the Championship next season.

They were extremely important goals.  I'm not saying otherwise.  My point is, we invested a lot of time in this guy, gave him lots of playing time for him to find his mojo. At the end of it Everton are the beneficiaries of this time.

[Matt Collins]

It's a loan. You know what you're getting into. Sometimes clubs in our situation have little choice

What was the alterbative? Give Gardner a chance and wait for 5 months while he blew the cob webs off like he did at Brighton?

[villadelph]

Let's face it, is anyone seriously that bothered that Cleverley is going to Everton?

No doubt he gets the £50k / wk & a hefty signing on fee but he is exceptionally mediocre. It's only because we compare him to the likes of Silla & El Ahmadi that he looks OK.

Never really wanted to be here & his performances up to March showed it.

I'd rather have Tom then some of the scrubs we've been holding onto for near the same wages for the last 4 years.

[dave.woodhall]

What a waste of a season for us if he was never going to sign. We should have been playing our young guys instead of giving this guy valuable match time just for him to get his confidence back and then fcuk off.

Those two match-winning goals were quite useful.

Had he not scored those then we could have given lots of our younger players plenty of experience and game time in the Championship next season.

They were extremely important goals.  I'm not saying otherwise.  My point is, we invested a lot of time in this guy, gave him lots of playing time for him to find his mojo. At the end of it Everton are the beneficiaries of this time.

No, we were. We had an experienced player for a season rather than an untried, inexperienced one recovering from two career-threatening injuries.

[Rudy65]

How did it happen that Everton, who were apparently in major financial crpa 3or 4 years ago, are now able to outbid us for players? Did I miss something? Why are they financially so much better off than us?

Nobody's saying that they did outbid us.

I suspect partner and family being based in the NW was the deciding factor

[ciggiesnbeer]

Has he signed for Everton then?

Not yet but close apparently. No harm no foul in my opinion. He worked hard, had a few good games and (a few awful ones) but always cared more than he needed to about our survival.

Good luck to him.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/05/tom-cleverley-joins-everton-manchester-united

[clash city rocker]

Well hopefully he went there because Everton offered him loads more wonga. I should imagine the close world of premiership footballers means that most players have a good idea about what goes on at each individual club , what the managers like and what the other players are like.These things could sway decisions as much as money could.

[manic-road]

Cleverley has just been called up to the England squad, so his performances for Villa weren't that bad were they?

[silhillvilla]

Cleverley has just been called up to the England squad, so his performances for Villa weren't that bad were they?

An England call up these days carries about as much Koudos as having a Boots loyalty card.

[Richard E]

Cleverley has just been called up to the England squad, so his performances for Villa weren't that bad were they?

An England call up these days carries about as much Koudos as having a Boots loyalty card.

Carlton Palmer and Steve Bull have England caps.

[PaulWinch again]

It's frustrating because it's another player who needs replacing.

[class-of-82]

Does his partner come from nw ?
Sure she is in towie

[walsall villain]

How did it happen that Everton, who were apparently in major financial crpa 3or 4 years ago, are now able to outbid us for players? Did I miss something? Why are they financially so much better off than us?

Nobody's saying that they did outbid us.

I suspect partner and family being based in the NW was the deciding factor

I suspect you are right. At least we know where we stand nice and early on this one.