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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #240 on: April 26, 2015, 11:39:39 PM »
Goal 2 was Sanchez who I think lost the ball and then got wreckless in challenge. The 3rd goal was diabolical defending of a dreadful corner 

Quite so but nothing to do with becoming more attacking.  Individual errors were the causes of the goals.
Agree, I'm not advocating we stop the quality offensive play. Just tighten up the basics at the back. As others have posted having hutton cissoko and senderos back should help.

Someone should be giving Bacuna and Richardson the mother of all bollockings tomorrow for that pathetic attempt at forming a wall.

I couldn't agree more Paulie. Pathetic, spineless defending. I hope they have both played their last full games this season. I can't see Sherwood putting up with that sort of shit if and when other players get fit. I'm still gutted, but full of optimism for the last four games of the league season.

I wouldn't go that far. We're hardly spoiled for choice. Richardson played well against Spurs and Liverpool and Bacuna's good going forward and needs to improve defensively. Bollockings are well deserved and more work on the training ground required.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #241 on: April 26, 2015, 11:43:42 PM »
I'd make them stand as a two man wall in training, wearing blindfolds, and let everyone fire in free kicks. The big pair of tarts.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #242 on: April 26, 2015, 11:56:50 PM »
I'd make them stand as a two man wall in training, wearing blindfolds, and let everyone fire in free kicks. The big pair of tarts.

I like your style. I think bullseyes painted on the blindfolds and genital area would be a good addition.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #243 on: April 26, 2015, 11:58:12 PM »
We would actually hit them these days too. Had Lambert tried that the shots would have been all over the place.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #244 on: April 27, 2015, 12:05:58 AM »
An incorrect decision is an incorrect decision whether we got away with one the week before or not.

There were no other valid penalty claims for Man City...unless you count a perfectly timed tackle on Silva or the very strong and athletic Aguero flinging himself to the floor when he had his shoulder slightly tapped and the ball nowhere near him.
Bacuna had 2 hands on him I think

The ball was nowhere near him.  You see players being pulled down in the area all the time when corners or free kicks come in and nothing is given, even when it is where the ball is directed to.  Bacuna was stupid but did he stop Aguero getting to the ball.

I also do not go along with Liverpool being denied a goal last week with the offside decision.  The Villa players clearly stopped well before Balotelli put the ball in the net.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #245 on: April 27, 2015, 12:10:42 AM »
Ball doesn't have to be near a player to be a foul. I think we got away with it.

And nobody has said Balotelli would score, but i'm more than a tad happy we never had to find out if he would have or not.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #246 on: April 27, 2015, 12:20:43 AM »
Ball doesn't have to be near a player to be a foul. I think we got away with it.

And nobody has said Balotelli would score, but i'm more than a tad happy we never had to find out if he would have or not.

The ball was 5 yards behind him.  So why do referees not give a penalty for defenders clearly pulling back opposition players at corners.

People have said that Liverpool were denied a goal.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #247 on: April 27, 2015, 12:24:25 AM »
It was a clear as day foul and they should of had a penalty!

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #248 on: April 27, 2015, 12:24:35 AM »
Ball doesn't have to be near a player to be a foul. I think we got away with it.

And nobody has said Balotelli would score, but i'm more than a tad happy we never had to find out if he would have or not.

The ball was 5 yards behind him.  So why do referees not give a penalty for defenders clearly pulling back opposition players at corners.

People have said that Liverpool were denied a goal.

I have no idea why they don't always give a foul when a foul is committed. A foul is a foul regardless of how close the ball is to the incident.

People have said the same about us, the penalty would still have had to have been scored. Same as Balotelli would still have had to have scored.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #249 on: April 27, 2015, 12:31:34 AM »
Ball doesn't have to be near a player to be a foul. I think we got away with it.

And nobody has said Balotelli would score, but i'm more than a tad happy we never had to find out if he would have or not.

The ball was 5 yards behind him.  So why do referees not give a penalty for defenders clearly pulling back opposition players at corners.

People have said that Liverpool were denied a goal.

I have no idea why they don't always give a foul when a foul is committed. A foul is a foul regardless of how close the ball is to the incident.

People have said the same about us, the penalty would still have had to have been scored. Same as Balotelli would still have had to have scored.

Balotelli did score and hence the disallowed goal.  The only similarity between the two is that they were both onside, what happened next was different in each case.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #250 on: April 27, 2015, 12:35:23 AM »
I also do not go along with Liverpool being denied a goal last week with the offside decision.  The Villa players clearly stopped well before Balotelli put the ball in the net.

People have said that Liverpool were denied a goal.

Balotelli did score and hence the disallowed goal.

I'm totally lost now.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #251 on: April 27, 2015, 12:41:10 AM »
I also do not go along with Liverpool being denied a goal last week with the offside decision.  The Villa players clearly stopped well before Balotelli put the ball in the net.

People have said that Liverpool were denied a goal.

Balotelli did score and hence the disallowed goal.

I'm totally lost now.

Mario Balotelli puts the ball into the Villa net, but the flag was long up for offside. The replay shows he was a yard or two onside. Uh oh. To be fair, Villa had heard the whistle by the time Balotelli shot.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #252 on: April 27, 2015, 12:51:51 AM »
I agreed with that a few posts ago, I even said I'm glad we never had to find out if he would have scored if the flag had correctly stayed down.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #253 on: April 27, 2015, 08:29:12 AM »
Re Balotelli.  The whistle had be blown so long before I was half expecting him to be booked for carrying on (or did they change that some time ago?)

Re Guzan's fuck-up.  It's not absolving him of the blame, but watching it back Vlaar passes it back to his right foot.  Rule no1 was always put in on the side the goalkeeper kicks with.
Still a stupid decision be Guzan, even without the cock-up-  Even if he'd made a decent contact, he'd still have been playing Okore into all kinds of trouble.  That ball should have been launched towards the half-way line.  Only way out from there.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #254 on: April 27, 2015, 10:29:10 AM »
I also do not go along with Liverpool being denied a goal last week with the offside decision.  The Villa players clearly stopped well before Balotelli put the ball in the net.

People have said that Liverpool were denied a goal.

Balotelli did score and hence the disallowed goal.

I'm totally lost now.

Mario Balotelli puts the ball into the Villa net, but the flag was long up for offside. The replay shows he was a yard or two onside. Uh oh. To be fair, Villa had heard the whistle by the time Balotelli shot.

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Surely that's not just a sort of after thought in considering the incident, though, but is pretty crucial?

Balotelli was flagged offside, our players stopped playing, Balotelli "scored", as you originally said. There's far from any guarantee that had the linesman not flagged till after the shot, he'd have scored.

 


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