The Final

[UK Redsox]

As a back up plan can you actually buy club Wembley tickets from Wembley itself or do you have to buy them from an agency.
Seen them advertised from some sites that I have never heard of

They go on resale a month before the match. Try that with an ordinary ticket and it's called touting. With Club Wembley the FA take a cut of the sale price.

Similar to Villa's deal with Viagogo

[UK Redsox]

Cheers guys
I think touts should be able to operate freely anyway. What's the diff between trading a car in at fords for £4000 and then seeing it on the forecourt for £6,999. Yet buy a ticket for £100 and sell it on for £300 and it's called touting.

Yep, I've never understood why you can freely re-sell nearly everything you own but can't do so with sport and concert tickets.

[walsall villain]

Cheers guys
I think touts should be able to operate freely anyway. What's the diff between trading a car in at fords for £4000 and then seeing it on the forecourt for £6,999. Yet buy a ticket for £100 and sell it on for £300 and it's called touting.

Can't see the problem with selling on your own ticket if you aren't wanting to go but I personally couldn't ask for more than I paid for it.
As a young lad I used to go with a mate to Villa park on semi final day and on three occasions we were given tickets by touts at kick off time when they gave up hope of selling. I wonder if that ever happens today? We even got to see the biggest game ever played in Britain, Baggies V Small Heath.

[silhillvilla]

Know someone who bought 2 club wembley yesterday for £1400 .
Wasn't me btw.

[DeKuip]

Cheers guys
I think touts should be able to operate freely anyway. What's the diff between trading a car in at fords for £4000 and then seeing it on the forecourt for £6,999. Yet buy a ticket for £100 and sell it on for £300 and it's called touting.

Yep, I've never understood why you can freely re-sell nearly everything you own but can't do so with sport and concert tickets.

Nobody's going to buy a car for more than it's worth though are they?

Touts are just scum.

[Dazvillain]

May 12th....what sort of price or blocks will still be available do u think?
Will I have to ring booking line or go online ?

[class-of-82]

Dekuip
No you right there mate but if you got a house on the market for 200k and someone wants its badly they will offer you 220k, which is called gazumping, but the house is still only worth 200k.
Exactly the same as with a ticket with a face value of £100 someone wants it badly enough they offer you £150 you gonna say no mate I only want £100.
so when a tout sees that ppl will pay over the odds cause they want a ticket badly enough it's wrong ?

[maidstonevillain]

Cheers guys
I think touts should be able to operate freely anyway. What's the diff between trading a car in at fords for £4000 and then seeing it on the forecourt for £6,999. Yet buy a ticket for £100 and sell it on for £300 and it's called touting.

Can't see the problem with selling on your own ticket if you aren't wanting to go but I personally couldn't ask for more than I paid for it.
As a young lad I used to go with a mate to Villa park on semi final day and on three occasions we were given tickets by touts at kick off time when they gave up hope of selling. I wonder if that ever happens today? We even got to see the biggest game ever played in Britain, Baggies V Small Heath.

Dekuip
No you right there mate but if you got a house on the market for 200k and someone wants its badly they will offer you 220k, which is called gazumping, but the house is still only worth 200k.
Exactly the same as with a ticket with a face value of £100 someone wants it badly enough they offer you £150 you gonna say no mate I only want £100.
so when a tout sees that ppl will pay over the odds cause they want a ticket badly enough it's wrong ?

The house is worth £220k.  Because that is what someone is prepared to pay for it.

[dave.woodhall]

As a back up plan can you actually buy club Wembley tickets from Wembley itself or do you have to buy them from an agency.
Seen them advertised from some sites that I have never heard of

They go on resale a month before the match. Try that with an ordinary ticket and it's called touting. With Club Wembley the FA take a cut of the sale price.

Similar to Villa's deal with Viagogo

When we give 21,000 tickets for a home match to people with no interest in the Villa or our opponents there might start to be a similarity.

[purpletrousers]

Cheers guys
I think touts should be able to operate freely anyway. What's the diff between trading a car in at fords for £4000 and then seeing it on the forecourt for £6,999. Yet buy a ticket for £100 and sell it on for £300 and it's called touting.

Yep, I've never understood why you can freely re-sell nearly everything you own but can't do so with sport and concert tickets.

So if a company made it their business to buy up all cars for sale and sell them for 3 times their value that would be ok by you, you'd happily pay it? That's what goes on with events tickets. Of course I'm simplifying, but with a bit more relevance to touting.

[class-of-82]

The house that is worth 220k is like the f.a.cup final ticket that is worth £500 but with a face value of say £100.
Club Wembley tickets that are face value say £150 but on the websites they are £750 but it's ok cause there on a website off a tout it's wrong?
Every single thing we buy is off a glorified tout be it tesco asda bp who buy something cheap and sell it on at a profit
Anyway guys we got a cup final to look forward to
Villa till I die

[DeKuip]

Sorry Co82 but there is a world of difference between a trader buying goods cheap to sell on at a profit and how a ticket tout works. And your house and car sale examples are not the same thing either.
If you're looking for the equivalent of a tout think of someone who'd buy up every loaf during a bread shortage then stand outside the baker's selling them at 5 or 6 times the normal price.
I suppose it depends on your own social values as to whether you'd see him as an opportunist or a horrible greedy c**t.

[UK Redsox]

As a back up plan can you actually buy club Wembley tickets from Wembley itself or do you have to buy them from an agency.
Seen them advertised from some sites that I have never heard of

They go on resale a month before the match. Try that with an ordinary ticket and it's called touting. With Club Wembley the FA take a cut of the sale price.

Similar to Villa's deal with Viagogo

When we give 21,000 tickets for a home match to people with no interest in the Villa or our opponents there might start to be a similarity.

We're not talking about the Football Family tickets, my post is about Club Wembley and re-sale through official channels. These are people who in effect have season tickets for football matches at Wembley but for some reason do not want to or are unable to attend the Final.

To me there's no difference between this and me re-selling my ST seat at Villa through Viagogo.

[class-of-82]

Dekuip
Totally see your view and this chat got a bit offline about cars etc but my original view is that if a tout wants to sell me a ticket for the final and it gets me in then he can name his price.
But you got to remember that for every ticket a tout has in his pocket there's someone who sold it him in the first place and that person might be the person you work with or sit next to at the game.

[JJ-AV]

Anyone know if they're selling them by specific blocks at a time?

My mate got his today and reckons there's only three blocks left. Would suggest there's not many tickets remaining.

I'm not eligible until Monday.