Standing/Sitting Areas for Semi final Wembley

[itbrvilla]

It was chaos Nev, 32.000 of us all met up on Wembley Way to sort out who was a stander and who was a sitter and he didn't turn up.

The ticket office should of sorted it out the lazy sods.

My knees have fussed having followed Witton Ends advice.

[bertlambshank]

It was chaos Nev, 32.000 of us all met up on Wembley Way to sort out who was a stander and who was a sitter and he didn't turn up.

The ticket office should of sorted it out the lazy sods.

My knees have fussed having followed Witton Ends advice.

It would of been like the scene in Airplane 2
'smoking or non smoking sir?'.

[conman]

i think witton end should be reinstated
his only crime was trying to make sure that those who were unable to stand for long periods
were still able to see the match

[peter w]

His crime was that he was young - I guess - and was banging on about something old farts weren't interested in.

[Sister of Top Cat]

His crime was that he was young - I guess - and was banging on about something old farts weren't interested in.

That's unfair and inaccurate.

[Dave]

His crime was that he was young - I guess - and was banging on about something old farts weren't interested in.

Yeah, which is why we've banned amfy as well and have told her not to talk about the safe standing initiative. We just don't care about it. Or, in the real world there is probably no club website in the country whose members have done as much to reopen the discussion of standing at football matches.

He was banned because he was asked to tone down his ridiculous mistruths about going to the ticket office and asking for seats in the standing section, and chose not to.

[Pete]

i think witton end should be reinstated
his only crime was trying to make sure that those who were unable to stand for long periods
were still able to see the match

What, making sure they could see by insisting on his 'right to stand', possibly in front of them?

[greenwichvilla]

Didn't we have one of these in 2010?

I believe the poster was called villa banter. Does anyone of a link to that?

[dave.woodhall]

The most extreme standers remind me of extreme smokers. Perhaps if they weren't so bloody selfish they would get a bit more sympathy from the rest of us.

[conman]

The most extreme standers remind me of extreme smokers. Perhaps if they weren't so bloody selfish they would get a bit more sympathy from the rest of us.

yes ,,, in the holte end ,,where you are up and down like a yo yo
i always seem to be sitting behind the first one to stand up
and the last one to sit down

[peter w]

His crime was that he was young - I guess - and was banging on about something old farts weren't interested in.

Yeah, which is why we've banned amfy as well and have told her not to talk about the safe standing initiative. We just don't care about it. Or, in the real world there is probably no club website in the country whose members have done as much to reopen the discussion of standing at football matches.

He was banned because he was asked to tone down his ridiculous mistruths about going to the ticket office and asking for seats in the standing section, and chose not to.

Really? I  thought he was only asked to stop going on about wanting to stand - that he went on about "ridiculous mistruths" didn't seem to illicit anything other than people thinking he was talking nonsense. Still seems harsh to ban somebody for that. As for the amfy thing, I'm sure you'll also remember me saying that if he wants to stand that's fine and he should be directed towards amfy and her campaign.

[Dave]

Really?

Yes, really.

As for the amfy thing, I'm sure you'll also remember me saying that if he wants to stand that's fine and he should be directed towards amfy and her campaign.

If you honestly think that he was banned because he wanted to talk about standing (as per your original post), why haven't we banned amfy and all the other people who talk about and support standing?

Because clearly it's only the supporting of standing that we have an issue with, not the whole 'being annoying, aggravating our members and ignoring requests to stop it' thing.

[amfy]

Don't ban me - I promise not to stand in your way, unless the person in front of me is standing up then, sorry what can I do?

[Pat McMahon]

Don't ban me - I promise not to stand in your way, unless the person in front of me is standing up then, sorry what can I do?

When I was a defender and big galoots were backing into me I used to give them a straight-palm open-fingered jab in the kidneys. It generally deterred them. Feel free to try on the Holte ( unless I'm standing in front of you)

[peter w]

Really?

Yes, really.

As for the amfy thing, I'm sure you'll also remember me saying that if he wants to stand that's fine and he should be directed towards amfy and her campaign.

If you honestly think that he was banned because he wanted to talk about standing (as per your original post), why haven't we banned amfy and all the other people who talk about and support standing?

Because clearly it's only the supporting of standing that we have an issue with, not the whole 'being annoying, aggravating our members and ignoring requests to stop it' thing.

You see, I think you entirely missed my point. He is quite clearly young (I guess) and unlike the vast majority of us has never had the freedom to stand at football matches. We have, we've seen that it's moved on and most people now sit because they have to. In grounds - usually away - it seems the majority stand but there will be people who don't want to or can't for a variety of reasons that have been listed here. Here is a young person who has not seen both sides of the coin and probably doesn't get what we're getting in such a state about his way of trying to fight his 'stand' corner. My point about the old farts thing is that that was how we were coming over to him, to me, when surely what he needed was education? Hence I have also said (twice but ignored and the point missed to you twice saying that amfy should be banned if the issue is about standing) that he should be pointed in the direction of amfy and her campaign.

Given that the organic growth and sustainability of H&V probably needs to get more youngsters on board then surely we should be trying teach them respect towards others through things such as safe standing and the benefits for those that want to stand and those that don't. Just saying 'you're wrong' to somebody who is young doesn't work. Banning him won't change his mind. Asking him to read what amfy has done, is doing, and asking him to get behind it and share amongst his friends will probably - well maybe, hopefully - be another shot in the arm for the campaign.

If he's been banned for breaking site rules then I'm not aware of that. But there again I'm not a mod so I don't read every post and if he has broken site rules then its a pity because he's daft when all he needed to do was read more from amfy.