Aston Villa vs Queen's Park Rangers - post match thread

[Legion]

I thought we were great in the first half and should have been out of sight at HT. Richardson had a 'mare and something should have been done about it by Sherwood. However, there is absolutely no need to boo the bloke when he is playing for us. He was hardly doing it deliberately. All their goals came from basic errors by us. They came more into it in the second half and you could argue that a draw was a fair result, but I personally feel we should have buried them.

[Brazilian Villain]

Everybody has their own opinion of a match but the first 5 or 6 pages of posts after the game are usually all over the place with many posters seemingly having their own agendas on poor performances. Sorry but that is how I see it.

It was essential that we did not lose tonight.  A win would have taken a lot of pressure off us but mistakes cost us.  We are really struggling with injuries and Sherwood is just about putting out a competitive team.  It is showing in available substitutes.  It was crying out for somebody to replace a tiring Grealish and grab the midfield and pull it together or even Sinclair to take the game to QPR again in the 2nd half.  The legacy of Lambert is that we do not have that battling midfield player in the club.

We need Clark to go the next two matches without a booking as he has been one of the few players that has shown the determination to not give up.  We can all come up with formations when there is nothing riding on it but the manager has to make the decisions and live or die by them.  The 3 players he replaced had to be replaced.  Grealish had run out of steam physically and mentally as shown by his lack of positional discipline, Bacuna was injured and Cleverly was also tiring which was probably due to not being fully match fit.  Others could have been replaced but those 3 were clearly the obvious ones.  We could have gone 3 at the back but it is a formation we have not tried for a long time.

Every point is vital for us and every point dropped by the other teams at the bottom is the same so I am not too disheartened by the result, particularly as we could easily have folded after their third goal.

Sounds like a very reasonable summary of where we're at.

[Rudy65]

Everybody has their own opinion of a match but the first 5 or 6 pages of posts after the game are usually all over the place with many posters seemingly having their own agendas on poor performances. Sorry but that is how I see it.

It was essential that we did not lose tonight.  A win would have taken a lot of pressure off us but mistakes cost us.  We are really struggling with injuries and Sherwood is just about putting out a competitive team.  It is showing in available substitutes.  It was crying out for somebody to replace a tiring Grealish and grab the midfield and pull it together or even Sinclair to take the game to QPR again in the 2nd half.  The legacy of Lambert is that we do not have that battling midfield player in the club.

We need Clark to go the next two matches without a booking as he has been one of the few players that has shown the determination to not give up.  We can all come up with formations when there is nothing riding on it but the manager has to make the decisions and live or die by them.  The 3 players he replaced had to be replaced.  Grealish had run out of steam physically and mentally as shown by his lack of positional discipline, Bacuna was injured and Cleverly was also tiring which was probably due to not being fully match fit.  Others could have been replaced but those 3 were clearly the obvious ones.  We could have gone 3 at the back but it is a formation we have not tried for a long time.



Every point is vital for us and every point dropped by the other teams at the bottom is the same so I am not too disheartened by the result, particularly as we could easily have folded after their third goal.

Re Clark. Aren't the previous cards rescinded now. This was mentioned for someone in the Sunderland game on Sunday

Edit. I think theyre rescinded after the second Sunday in April. So Clark has to survive Spurs

[dave.woodhall]

Given that Sherwood has talked about having to rush players back I wonder if Richardson was fit tonight.

[adrenachrome]

Easy with hindsight but why play Richardson instead of Lowton. Phillips is renowned for his pace.

I think you've answered your own question there - Lowton is slower than Barry on a canal barge.

True dat. On the other hand Bacuna is wicked fast although he has the defensive nous of a rubber duck on a fairground shooting range. 

He should have considered 3 at the back if he was going to play Vlaar.  I suspect he starts from the premise that we will have 2 up top and fits everything around that.

[old man villa fan]

I'm starting to warm to Grealish as well now. Still a bit too casual but he turns away from defenders like they're not there and creates space. I'd start him at Spurs.

I would as well but he will not last the game so his replacement must be decided on before the match and go with that game plan.  I always think it is better to start the game, rather than bring him on late when he may struggle to get into the game.

[PeterWithesShin]

It was a crap we didn't win tonight. It was absolutely vital we didn't lose.

[Chris Jameson]

Concrete Ron? More like putty Ron. He is not interested in the slightest. I saw him at birmingham airport in October "when we played man c at home" he was supposed to be injured with a calf strain. Well he looked ok when he jogged into the airport terminal to collect some friends. He should have been a VP supporting the team. The sooner he leaves the better.

He was, he was sat behind myself and my son at Villa Park for the Man City game.

[rougegorge]

It was obvious in the first half that Phillips had the beating of Richardson so it was disappointing the management team didn't address the issue.  Really good first half with the ball moved at pace when we should have been home and dry,  followed by some Lambertesque play after they equalised.

We need Benteke to play like that every game from here on in.

The defending let us down again and I thought the whole defence lacked composure - too many changes -  and Guzan doesn't exude a calming influence.

[leylandalbion]

Should have expected that after being accused by steward 47 in the upper north of pinching seats! I go every game with 3 boys and bought 3 extra for daughter wife and dad....she also told me I have on occasions brought adults in too sit in my kids seats! Unbelievable. If that's how stewards of the club treat a st holder x 4 who travel 200 miles a game....unbelievable.  totally ruined my game....until 10 mins....letter to the club tomorrow

[Legion]

Things could get a whole lot worse tomorrow night if liverpool win.

What exactly has that got to do with the price of fish?

[spk]

Should have expected that after being accused by steward 47 in the upper north of pinching seats! I go every game with 3 boys and bought 3 extra for daughter wife and dad....she also told me I have on occasions brought adults in too sit in my kids seats! Unbelievable. If that's how stewards of the club treat a st holder x 4 who travel 200 miles a game....unbelievable.  totally ruined my game....until 10 mins....letter to the club tomorrow

Was it that git I fall out with ?

[leylandalbion]

Lady...with purple short hair....

[adrenachrome]

Aston Villa: Disappointing not to win after we dominated, says Tim Sherwood

Boss frustrated after Villa forced to battle back for a point against QPR despite strong first half performance


    23:13, 7 April 2015
    By Gregg Evans


Christian Benteke saved Aston Villa’s skin with a superb hat-trick in Tuesday night’s 3-3 draw with Queens Park Rangers - but that wasn’t enough to please Tim Sherwood.

The bouncy boss cut a frustrated figure after an emotionally-charged game in which he felt his side dropped two valuable points.

Villa were 2-1 up at the break after Matt Phillips’ goal was cancelled out but second half strikes from Clint Hill and Charlie Austin almost gave QPR all three points until Benteke intervened.

“When you dominate a football match like that it’s disappointing not to win," Sherwood said.

“The referee should have stopped it at half time!

“We dropped off after the break after really sticking it on them in the first half.

“It was inevitable that we would fatigue in the second half so in the end we’re grateful of Christian.

“It could be a vital point in the end.”

Villa showed incredible attacking intent in the first half and created chance after chance.

“I can’t understand how they only scored 12 goals before I came,” added Sherwood.

“It’s incredible really.”


That they couldn’t wrap up the game is a clear indication as to why they are struggling down the bottom of the table, though.

On most other days a Benteke hat-trick would be enough to secure the win but having the striker among the goals again will help going forward.

“He’s a good player in a rich vein of form,” said Sherwood.

“It doesn’t come much better than that.

“If we can shore it up at the back that will help because there were a lot of good positives to take.”

QPR boss Chris Ramsey admitted that he, too, was disappointed to drop two points having taken the lead so late in the game.

He said: “Before the game if someone said you will get four points out of the last two games (Villa and Albion) I would have taken it.

“But based on how we played I am disappointed that we haven’t been able to get ourselves above the line.

“We showed that we are more than capable of doing it.

“The teams usually at the bottom do have defensive frailties and they were obvious, even though we did buck up our ideas.

“All in all I’m disappointed but in the cold light of day I would have probably taken the four points.”

[PeterWithe]

Our regular full backs in and we'd have waltzed that, superb first half going forward, more than a bit iffy going backward.

On song we really are so much better than those around us, we cant keep fucking up, can we?