How can you say that the situation is the same that with Paul Lambert? With Lambert we were relegated, we didn't score and neither we created chances or play something that you could name football.Sherwood doesn't have the magic wound but has won two crucial games and with him the team creates chances (yesterday Benteke missed a goal done by the goal) and scores at least one gol every game.
It's another week where I hold Lerner totally responsible and accountable for the mess. Rumours of deals being done and sherwood being shown the door, and not one iota of comment from our owner 4000 miles away. Gross negligence.
Quote from: Archie on April 05, 2015, 09:52:09 AMHow can you say that the situation is the same that with Paul Lambert? With Lambert we were relegated, we didn't score and neither we created chances or play something that you could name football.Sherwood doesn't have the magic wound but has won two crucial games and with him the team creates chances (yesterday Benteke missed a goal done by the goal) and scores at least one gol every game.Yes you can't blame Sherwood for this squad and some players have improved under him and some are still in comfort pick up wages mode.I've heard there is a massive clear out in summer and we need ,I think only guzan , Delphi , Clark and Hutton have been ok this season and keep okore and benteke , the rest can go for me .
We did something we have not done at Old Trafford for a good while and that's stayed in the game for 90 minutes. We weren't good and we weren't poor and that combination would always likely see us beaten. We defended well in the main, but afforded them too much time to get the ball into the box, which in the main we manfully defended, but we're wasteful on the ball.We did create a brilliant chance for Benteke which he should have burried, while they had chances themselves, not that I would say Guzan was particularly over worked. We maintained the habit of conceding in the dying stages with their first, while Bacuna giving the ball away for their second was annoying.They have the referee to credit for the third, letting referee Rooney bully him into have the drop ball become contested because another Man United player feigned injury while we were in possession.Rooney is a diving cheat and how he escaped a booking, I have no idea.
We didn't seem to have the belief to have a go at them yesterday and when we did, the final ball into the box wasn't good enough. It was like watching a Lambert side at times which was a shame because I think Sherwood has done ok since he's come in. He should have been a bit more braver yesterday and thrown on a bit of flair up front but he left it too late when Joe Cole came on.On the plus side, I thought Okore had a cracking game.
Quote from: tomd2103 on April 04, 2015, 06:17:55 PMQuote from: brontebilly on April 04, 2015, 06:05:03 PMQuote from: supertom on April 04, 2015, 05:25:47 PMQuote from: devilla on April 04, 2015, 05:17:08 PMWhat really pisses me off about shrek is not just that he scores against us and is generally an annoying little shit. It's that he's lauded as some world class player but has never shown that against world class opposition when playing for England.Watching him score a goal like he did today really gets on my nerves as a (former) England fan. I've given up watching those toss=bags in the qualifiers now and end up, like many, watching the major tournaments out of abject curiosity. Then like clockwork, these players always lauded as world class suddenly look decidedly ordinary. Rooney is a fucking charlatan. Ask Utd fans if they can remember the last big CL game where Rooney really turned up. I'm no Steven Gerrard fan and he's been shit for England too, but at least when his career is all said and done he can look back at that CL final and remember a game where he lived up to his reputation as being one of the best midfielders of his generation. He delivered. Rooney has not. It's all well and good him getting yet another goal against a tin pot piece of shite side as Villa normally are when they step onto a pitch against Utd, but I'd like to see him doing it when it matters in an England shirt. Look at the Euros and there's not one side that England should be quaking in their boots at. But what will happen next year? If we're lucky we'll shuffle unconvincingly to the last 16 and then get knocked out at the first reasonable side we play against and that pug ugly piss kidney will no doubt bemoan the fans lack of passion.Dont rate his big game temperament but Rooney has 47 international goals and is by a long way the best player in the England squad. His goal today was outstanding to be fair. Probably should have worked harder at his game and fitness over the last few years but England have pretty average players by top European standards in their first team. Rooney isnt one of them.Not so sure about that. Would like to see the breakdown of his goals for England in terms of who they have come against. Why is that going to be different to any other England striker?Shearer, Greaves, Charlton and Lineker didn't score all of theirs against Germany, Italy and Brazil.
Quote from: brontebilly on April 04, 2015, 06:05:03 PMQuote from: supertom on April 04, 2015, 05:25:47 PMQuote from: devilla on April 04, 2015, 05:17:08 PMWhat really pisses me off about shrek is not just that he scores against us and is generally an annoying little shit. It's that he's lauded as some world class player but has never shown that against world class opposition when playing for England.Watching him score a goal like he did today really gets on my nerves as a (former) England fan. I've given up watching those toss=bags in the qualifiers now and end up, like many, watching the major tournaments out of abject curiosity. Then like clockwork, these players always lauded as world class suddenly look decidedly ordinary. Rooney is a fucking charlatan. Ask Utd fans if they can remember the last big CL game where Rooney really turned up. I'm no Steven Gerrard fan and he's been shit for England too, but at least when his career is all said and done he can look back at that CL final and remember a game where he lived up to his reputation as being one of the best midfielders of his generation. He delivered. Rooney has not. It's all well and good him getting yet another goal against a tin pot piece of shite side as Villa normally are when they step onto a pitch against Utd, but I'd like to see him doing it when it matters in an England shirt. Look at the Euros and there's not one side that England should be quaking in their boots at. But what will happen next year? If we're lucky we'll shuffle unconvincingly to the last 16 and then get knocked out at the first reasonable side we play against and that pug ugly piss kidney will no doubt bemoan the fans lack of passion.Dont rate his big game temperament but Rooney has 47 international goals and is by a long way the best player in the England squad. His goal today was outstanding to be fair. Probably should have worked harder at his game and fitness over the last few years but England have pretty average players by top European standards in their first team. Rooney isnt one of them.Not so sure about that. Would like to see the breakdown of his goals for England in terms of who they have come against.
Quote from: supertom on April 04, 2015, 05:25:47 PMQuote from: devilla on April 04, 2015, 05:17:08 PMWhat really pisses me off about shrek is not just that he scores against us and is generally an annoying little shit. It's that he's lauded as some world class player but has never shown that against world class opposition when playing for England.Watching him score a goal like he did today really gets on my nerves as a (former) England fan. I've given up watching those toss=bags in the qualifiers now and end up, like many, watching the major tournaments out of abject curiosity. Then like clockwork, these players always lauded as world class suddenly look decidedly ordinary. Rooney is a fucking charlatan. Ask Utd fans if they can remember the last big CL game where Rooney really turned up. I'm no Steven Gerrard fan and he's been shit for England too, but at least when his career is all said and done he can look back at that CL final and remember a game where he lived up to his reputation as being one of the best midfielders of his generation. He delivered. Rooney has not. It's all well and good him getting yet another goal against a tin pot piece of shite side as Villa normally are when they step onto a pitch against Utd, but I'd like to see him doing it when it matters in an England shirt. Look at the Euros and there's not one side that England should be quaking in their boots at. But what will happen next year? If we're lucky we'll shuffle unconvincingly to the last 16 and then get knocked out at the first reasonable side we play against and that pug ugly piss kidney will no doubt bemoan the fans lack of passion.Dont rate his big game temperament but Rooney has 47 international goals and is by a long way the best player in the England squad. His goal today was outstanding to be fair. Probably should have worked harder at his game and fitness over the last few years but England have pretty average players by top European standards in their first team. Rooney isnt one of them.
Quote from: devilla on April 04, 2015, 05:17:08 PMWhat really pisses me off about shrek is not just that he scores against us and is generally an annoying little shit. It's that he's lauded as some world class player but has never shown that against world class opposition when playing for England.Watching him score a goal like he did today really gets on my nerves as a (former) England fan. I've given up watching those toss=bags in the qualifiers now and end up, like many, watching the major tournaments out of abject curiosity. Then like clockwork, these players always lauded as world class suddenly look decidedly ordinary. Rooney is a fucking charlatan. Ask Utd fans if they can remember the last big CL game where Rooney really turned up. I'm no Steven Gerrard fan and he's been shit for England too, but at least when his career is all said and done he can look back at that CL final and remember a game where he lived up to his reputation as being one of the best midfielders of his generation. He delivered. Rooney has not. It's all well and good him getting yet another goal against a tin pot piece of shite side as Villa normally are when they step onto a pitch against Utd, but I'd like to see him doing it when it matters in an England shirt. Look at the Euros and there's not one side that England should be quaking in their boots at. But what will happen next year? If we're lucky we'll shuffle unconvincingly to the last 16 and then get knocked out at the first reasonable side we play against and that pug ugly piss kidney will no doubt bemoan the fans lack of passion.
What really pisses me off about shrek is not just that he scores against us and is generally an annoying little shit. It's that he's lauded as some world class player but has never shown that against world class opposition when playing for England.
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