ManYoo vs Aston Villa Post Match Thread.

[Rudy65]

Sherwood' stats are taking s battering. 6 games, 4 losses.

You are forgetting the cup victory

[olaftab]

Sherwood has made very little difference. Chances are that we would have been in no worse/better position if the other chap was still here.

[Rudy65]

Another Sunday morning. Another black mood. I suspect that the Sherwood gamble is yet more reactive throwing of the dice by the Villa hierarchy. There is a pattern to the collapse into our present position of acceptance that we will lose to Manchester United. The pattern is quick fixes. Wasting money on an obscene scale? Let MON flounce out. Signed a sick manager? Pay him off and get a healthy one. Manager stinking the place out and on the brink of relegation? Get another one who does the same. Losing money? Buy kids, rejects and bargain basement hopefuls. Cheap kids not delivering Premiership performances? Buy worn out old has beens. Manager an incoherent, uncommunicative dullard? Replace him with a cheeky chappie.

Ever since Ellis sold the club we have had this chopping and changing, this finger in the dyke, let's try something different approach where there needed to be the establishment of a club ethos and core values.

The buck stops with Randy Lerner because, despite the non football good he undoubtedly has done, his absentee, hands off, I love the club, I want to sell the club unpredictability is the root cause of our muddle and our slide.

We have become like a family in a car going on holiday that can't decide whether they want to go to Blackpool, Rhyl, Alton Towers or Skegness and finish up spending a fortnight at Hilton Services.

Agreed

I dont like the analogy of Blackpool given where they are heading as a football team

[olaftab]

No surprise with the result, just a shame the Albion have for the 3rd year rolled over against relegation rivals. I'd love to see them dragged back into it.

Pubis teams do do this. Get into lead against his team and win go a goal down and struggle to get anything out of the match. I am pleased they have him.

[brian green]

TSM1 and 2 have assembled a squad that is not good enough. That is the brutal truth which confronts us. It is not as simple as saying this player is rubbish and that player is rubbish. Virtually all of them have deep rooted shortcomings. That is why we get odd great performances when all the players click and massive periods when they don't.  A top level player on dozens of thousands of pounds a week has to be a total player. They have to have their heads right, their bodies right, the whole package. Take Christian Benteke a vital player for us, he is going straight through the trap door marked "one season wonder", and Gabby drifting in and out of games, Guzan's inability to kick with his right foot, Weimann's rages, N'Zogbia's lack of consistency, Vlaar's injuries, Bacuna's inability to tackle, Sanchez slowness of thought. The list goes on and on. Collectively the squad has too many flawed players. Good coaching should be able to correct some of it but when did we last have good coaches?
When Stylian took a pass in midfield he would start to turn, looking for the right pass and shielding the ball. Sanchez takes a pass, sets himself and loses the ball. These infuriating shortcomings run through the whole squad.

[john e]

Sherwood has made very little difference. Chances are that we would have been in no worse/better position if the other chap was still here.

I very much doubt we would have gone to Sunderland and beaten them by 4,
 we never looked like scoring one with Lambo, we even scored yesterday even if we were shit

I think our goalscoring stats since Sherwoods appointment suggests that we have improved in that department, and that's the department that will keep us up if we do stay up

[JUAN PABLO]

Sherwood has made very little difference. Chances are that we would have been in no worse/better position if the other chap was still here.

Don't think Lambert would have got victories against the stripe filth to be honest

[Jimbo]

Another Sunday morning. Another black mood. I suspect that the Sherwood gamble is yet more reactive throwing of the dice by the Villa hierarchy. There is a pattern to the collapse into our present position of acceptance that we will lose to Manchester United. The pattern is quick fixes. Wasting money on an obscene scale? Let MON flounce out. Signed a sick manager? Pay him off and get a healthy one. Manager stinking the place out and on the brink of relegation? Get another one who does the same. Losing money? Buy kids, rejects and bargain basement hopefuls. Cheap kids not delivering Premiership performances? Buy worn out old has beens. Manager an incoherent, uncommunicative dullard? Replace him with a cheeky chappie.

Ever since Ellis sold the club we have had this chopping and changing, this finger in the dyke, let's try something different approach where there needed to be the establishment of a club ethos and core values.

The buck stops with Randy Lerner because, despite the non football good he undoubtedly has done, his absentee, hands off, I love the club, I want to sell the club unpredictability is the root cause of our muddle and our slide.

We have become like a family in a car going on holiday that can't decide whether they want to go to Blackpool, Rhyl, Alton Towers or Skegness and finish up spending a fortnight at Hilton Services.

Spot on. We're the footballing embodiment of our owner: whimsical, unthinking and uncommitted.

[rob_bridge]

We may have scraped a 1-0 at Sunderland under Lambert. I doubt we would have scored v anyone else.

[silhillvilla]

It's another week where I hold Lerner totally responsible and accountable for the mess. Rumours of deals being done and sherwood being shown the door, and not one iota of comment from our owner 4000 miles away. Gross negligence.

[OzVilla]

In short, Lerner has been the absolute shining example of how not to operate the footballing side of a football club. In 7 years his decision making gets progressively worse year on year.

McGrath help us if we can't seal a deal to sell in the Summer if this fool at the helm. Can you imagine what 10 years of Lerner might look like!

[OzVilla]

Sherwood has made very little difference. Chances are that we would have been in no worse/better position if the other chap was still here.

I think we stand a good chance of staying up under Sherwood, for some reason I think we'll be ok.

I thought we were stone cold certainties for the drop under PL. Quite a difference from where I was.

[Archie]

How can you say that the situation is the same that with Paul Lambert?
With Lambert we were relegated, we didn't score and neither we created chances or play something that you could name football.
Sherwood doesn't have the magic wound but has won two crucial games and with him the team creates chances (yesterday Benteke missed a goal done by the goal) and scores at least one gol every game.

[Archie]

I thought we were ok. Not shit, not great. Missed the first 10 mins and the 'penalty' incident. Yes we were outplayed for long periods in the first half, but they only had a couple of chances and didn't really look like scoring up until when they did. Thought we broke well a few times and had we taken our chances, could also have had 3 goals. The missed header and the off balance Benteke skier could both have gone in at other grounds than old Trafford. What I find depressing is that this is not a good Utd side, yet we still fucking end up losing 3-1. Hate to say it, but thought Young was probably man of the match today. Caused us lots of problems and will likely think himself unlucky not to score.

Agree, apart from the fact that I think that we encountered one of the best United squads of this season.

[brian green]

You are absolutely correct Sil.  Villa Park has been run like the Kremlin for five years or more. Now we need a period of silence and focus on helping the new manager save us there are leaks gushing out of B6 which do serious damage to frail morale.