The not quite so mighty-anymore Aston Villa vs Swansea Post Match Thread

[Toronto Villa]

If Sinclair keeps on missing great chances we might see Gil before long

[Steve67]

Yes, that volley at the end was very poor. Not sure why he didn't bring it down.

[PaulWinch again]

If Sinclair keeps on missing great chances we might see Gil before long

I get the impression that Sherwood doesn't rate Gil.

[ADVILLAFAN]

Second half was fairly even, but over the whole game they probably deserved it.

We had 2 really good chances, the Gabby blocked shot and Sinclair hitting it just over.

Gomis had about 3-4 really good chances on his own.

[nick harper]

They were the better side but we never really knocked them off their rhythm. You get at Swansea by closing them down in their own half and pushing up on them - you need to be very fit. Ki and Cork had too much time to dictate things and leaving us outnumbered in midfield was a tactical error.

It was actually a game for playing longer and turning their back four but we played in front of them too often.

[Clampy]

It's hard to know why Gil isn't being given a go. It might just because he's new to the country and it's a big change. He struggled against Stoke and he might simply be given more time. It might be next season before he's given a real go. I would like to see him off the central striker though. He kept ending up in all the wrong positions and trying to dribble against Stoke, before they knocked him off the ball.

Sherwood wants us playing with pace up front and Gil's not the quickest. He'll get his chance eventually though

[Dave]

It's hard to know why Gil isn't being given a go. It might just because he's new to the country and it's a big change. He struggled against Stoke and he might simply be given more time. It might be next season before he's given a real go. I would like to see him off the central striker though. He kept ending up in all the wrong positions and trying to dribble against Stoke, before they knocked him off the ball.

Sherwood wants us playing with pace up front and Gil's not the quickest. He'll get his chance eventually though

Weimann and Grealish are hardly greased lightning either though.

[Clampy]

It's hard to know why Gil isn't being given a go. It might just because he's new to the country and it's a big change. He struggled against Stoke and he might simply be given more time. It might be next season before he's given a real go. I would like to see him off the central striker though. He kept ending up in all the wrong positions and trying to dribble against Stoke, before they knocked him off the ball.

Sherwood wants us playing with pace up front and Gil's not the quickest. He'll get his chance eventually though

Weimann and Grealish are hardly greased lightning either though.

That's true, although both of those tend to come off the bench.

[brian green]

Weimann looks a lot faster than he really is because he waves his arms a lot.   A bit like an actor doing "running really fast".   As for Grealish I have never seen him appear to want to run fast.   He likes to lope.   I have been very impressed of late how quick Cleverley is

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

They were the better side but we never really knocked them off their rhythm. You get at Swansea by closing them down in their own half and pushing up on them - you need to be very fit. Ki and Cork had too much time to dictate things and leaving us outnumbered in midfield was a tactical error.

It was actually a game for playing longer and turning their back four but we played in front of them too often.

Another game where we didn't use Gabby's pace, playing right on the last man...and I just don't rate Williams - good, solid defender but he's cumbersome and slow - but we made him look like Beckenbauer in his prime by giving him so much time on the ball. Sinclair hardly had a run. We should have played them the way we did the Stripeys in the league game - in their faces!
We have got something to play for after all.

[OCD]

We've clearly wanted it more than the opposition in the previous games. I didn't see that in this game.

[Dave]

It's hard to know why Gil isn't being given a go. It might just because he's new to the country and it's a big change. He struggled against Stoke and he might simply be given more time. It might be next season before he's given a real go. I would like to see him off the central striker though. He kept ending up in all the wrong positions and trying to dribble against Stoke, before they knocked him off the ball.

Sherwood wants us playing with pace up front and Gil's not the quickest. He'll get his chance eventually though

Weimann and Grealish are hardly greased lightning either though.

That's true, although both of those tend to come off the bench.

They do. And for some unknown reason Gil doesn't come off the bench instead of them.

[supertom]

It's hard to know why Gil isn't being given a go. It might just because he's new to the country and it's a big change. He struggled against Stoke and he might simply be given more time. It might be next season before he's given a real go. I would like to see him off the central striker though. He kept ending up in all the wrong positions and trying to dribble against Stoke, before they knocked him off the ball.

Sherwood wants us playing with pace up front and Gil's not the quickest. He'll get his chance eventually though

Weimann and Grealish are hardly greased lightning either though.

That's true, although both of those tend to come off the bench.

They do. And for some unknown reason Gil doesn't come off the bench instead of them.

It may well be fitness, something even Lambert commented on (though playing would actually help that) or indeed Gil may be struggling to settle in training. I'm sure in the next month we'll see him. Sherwood will change things round if he needs too. We haven't needed to for 3 games as Zogbia and Sinclair have largely done well. But Sinclair may find his place under threat next time out.

[brian green]

In all of Sherwood's previous games one or two or more of our players have responded to him by playing well above their Lambert form. Gabby, Cleverley, Charlie, Leandro have all looked liberated. Against Swansea no Villa player raised his game again so we struggled. Accepted that Swansea are the best team Sherwood's Villa has faced but we cannot fall back into back foot mode. Not bringing on Gil or Grealish when there were still three points up for grabs was old school Villa negativity.

[Hookeysmith]

If Sinclair keeps on missing great chances we might see Gil before long

I get the impression that Sherwood doesn't rate Gil.

In TS's first game against Stoke Gil kept losing the ball, was hauled off and had a bit of a mardy about it (maybe a strop or maybe disappointed in his own performance - who knows) Its up to players to show their ability in training so Gil has now lost the new boy honeymoon and needs to graft