The not quite so mighty-anymore Aston Villa vs Swansea Post Match Thread

[Toronto Villa]

I thought Clark was superb again, player of the season in my opinion.

Yeh I'll go with that. He's also not the scrawny kid we saw a couple of seasons back. He's filled out, is a lot more aware and savvy against PL forwards now. He's still young relatively speaking too so will continue to improve and mature. Okore will get better also and as gets stronger we'll become a very good CB in my opinion, and between them provide a very strong base for us over the next few years.

[CJ]

Any attendance info yet ?

It came up on MOTD (as Percy said) as 35,598 but I can't find it on the OS or anywhere else come to that - not even in my Sunday paper's report and results round up.

[PeterWithesShin]

Clark is proof that we should never write a young player off too soon. He's turning into a very good player, yet 6 months or so ago he wasn't good enough for us and was championship level. Even if fit, there is now way Vlaar or Senderos would start for me now, Clark and Okore have made those spots their own.

[AlexAlexCropley]

I think i'd have brought Gil on instead of Weimann, but I wouldn't say that bringing on a striker to replace the striker who went off because of injury is either 'bizarre' or 'utterly wrong'.

And a game loser?  You think the reason we lost that game was because Weimann was on the pitch for the last 20 minutes?

I certainly do.The hint is in the fact I wrote it.Thanks for the air quotes, so you don't "agree" with me,  no need for the condescension.

[DeKuip]

Not seen the details but I presume Lowton was injured, as he had been doing OK at LB?

He limped through the last 15 mins or so at Sunderland which made the introduction of Hepburn-Murphy a strange one as it seemed the ideal opportunity to give Kinsella a run.

[supertom]

Weimann didn't do too badly. He had one good run and was surprisingly quick footed to get the ball round a defender. I honestly don't think we'll see much of him next season though. He's a trier the lad, he's just not good enough. He did as much as Benteke managed yesterday to be perfectly honest. The big man had one of his moany games unfortunately. Face like a spanked ass from start to finish.

[supertom]

Not seen the details but I presume Lowton was injured, as he had been doing OK at LB?

He limped through the last 15 mins or so at Sunderland which made the introduction of Hepburn-Murphy a strange one as it seemed the ideal opportunity to give Kinsella a run.

Apparently Kinsella himself has recently had an injury, so that may have also been a consideration.

[dekko]

I think i'd have brought Gil on instead of Weimann, but I wouldn't say that bringing on a striker to replace the striker who went off because of injury is either 'bizarre' or 'utterly wrong'.

And a game loser?  You think the reason we lost that game was because Weimann was on the pitch for the last 20 minutes?

I certainly do.The hint is in the fact I wrote it.Thanks for the air quotes, so you don't "agree" with me, on need for the condescension.

Ok, re-reading my post I can see how that came off as a bit snarky.  Sorry if it seemed condescending, that wasn't what I was going for.

I still don't get the game loser bit though.  I can understand if you'd say it cost us the win, as he didn't contribute too much when he came on, but unless I missed something I don't see how he was the cause of us actually losing the match.  I'm just curious about your reasoning.

[Risso]

Any attendance info yet ?

It came up on MOTD (as Percy said) as 35,598 but I can't find it on the OS or anywhere else come to that - not even in my Sunday paper's report and results round up.

According to Soccerbase, the attendance = 0.  Sherwood out!

[Toronto Villa]

Never thought it would get so bad at VP that nobody would show up. I'd say Fox out, but appears he couldn't be arsed to be there either.

[CJ]

There again, if the FA decide we have to play a game behind closed doors as punishment for the pitch invasions we can use that stat to say we've already done it

[Witton Warrior]

Looking back as objectively as I can I thought we could easily have been 2-0 up before Swansea scored despite them having more of the play. Interesting that Sherwood was saying we may get caught out playing a high line and that is just what happened. The price you pay for not taking your chances I suppose.

Was talking with a chap at half time who said if we had Swansea's players and used our tactics that would be a good team - sort of know what he means. I thought Swansea were technically very good and enjoyed watching them - there was a lesson to be learned about trapping balls and not just thumping them in the general direction of a team mate.

[Toronto Villa]

You get the impression at least initially we won't get many draws under Sherwood. He's going to go for it whenever he can. He would rather win one, lose one than have two draws. One thing though of that formula he wants to change is making those draws stick if we can't squeeze out a win, like yesterday or Stoke

[darren woolley]

I'm disappointed with result I thought we would get something out of this game.

[Tony Erdington]

Cleverley gave us a lot more than sanchez.

Clark quality, okore wasnt bad either

manure will pay