Do the Villa make you happy?

[Pat McMahon]

For a club of our standing our home record is pathetic.

Our home record has almost always been pathetic.

Not if you were raised on a diet of Vic Crowe and Ron Saunders.

Or not, if you look at the stats. We had a decent home record under them but never a Fortress Villa Park.

To be fair, I'd argue it was in 71/72...

"Like Muhammed Ali winning the boys brigade championship".

I'd disagree Dave. Ad@m's point was that our home form has almost always been pathetic. Under Crowe and Saunders it was far from that.

[dave.woodhall]

I was replying to the comment about 1971-72, which we should never use to boast about anything except our support.

[Pat McMahon]

I was replying to the comment about 1971-72, which we should never use to boast about anything except our support.

Agreed, but sadly that was where we were at the time.

I still wince when I think of some of our 3rd division defeats, most notably a 3-0 thumping at Walsall, who we just could not beat in two seasons.

[PeterWithesShin]

When you have to go back 40 years and a lower division, then it kind of proves that our home has rarely been impressive.

And yes, Villa do make me happy.