Newcastle United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithe]

We are fucked, Im resigned to it, we are so unlucky. We should have been in front at half time, we werent, we never will be.

[Malandro]

I'm sure I read that we are the only team in all 4 divisions to not have recorded a win in 2015.

I don't know about taking it on the chin, fair play to those who are resigned to it.

Personally, I am absolutely fucking distraught.

I'm with you on that, sick to the stomach.

I don't believe we are certainties to go down but do think we will have to hope Qpr implode

[brontebilly]

Against Baggies I would go

Given
Hutton Clarke Vlaar Okore
Delph Westwood
Sinclair Gill Grealish
Benteke

Not sure about Okore left back.

Real problem for us now is that many players who are clearly top division standard are struggling form wise. Clark is the only player we can rely on at the moment. Today was much better from Benteke, he could do with bundling in one off any part of his anatomy.

The likes of Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Vlaar, Sanchez, Delph and Benteke have been in poor form for a while. Sinclair after his two recent goals we hoped might spark something for us, but he hid today for the second away game in a row. Cleverley puts in a shift but hasnt an assist or goal this season and it shows. Sherwood doesnt seem gone on Gil or Grealish. Nzogbia, Weimann and Gabby might have the one odd good game in 10 but Id have no confidence in them getting goals or assists for us. Westwood has his uses with the ball but a two man midfield with him in it is always going to struggle on the counterattack.

Two things we could do if we are to play more direct ball to Benteke, is for starters to get our best set piece taker into the side, Bacuna, and also replace Guzan with Given. Guzan kicking is just too poor really and Given wont be worse around his six yard line than Guzan has been of late.

A third change that has been evident for at least two seasons is that Benteke and Gabby cannot play together up top in a 2 man forward line. Gabby actually wasnt too bad after half time when he moved to the flanks getting one of their centre halves booked. This was always the danger of getting a new man in was that it would take him a couple of games to figure this out. But Sherwood simply cant pick the two of them up top together again.

[walsall villain]

Oddly I am now on the other side of it. Just accepting with a smile and a shrug our time has come. Hey ho we will still have a club next season.

If by a miracle we start winning games then thats upside but right now its easier to just accept its our year and not get upset over it.

Me too. Our form suggests no other option

I too feel the need to protect myself from the pain. I have to find ways to survive emotionally. This could become serious.

Its the only way at this point IMHO. Its that or be miserable to our families and have every weekend ruined for the next few months. Football is meant to be fun, its just not worth getting that upset over. Accept, have a grin and move on.

Wish I could but just can't. Another miserable weekend in store. Perversely glad we are playing Tuesday night for my next rush of optimism followed, no doubt, by some gut wrenching disaster.

[VinnieChase84]

Can't see any revival from lot. Change left too late and quite simply the players we have are not good enough.
Would be a literal miracle from this point on

[Five Villa Tattoos]

Can't see where our next win is coming from. With every game a little more hope slips away.

[Phil from the upper holte]

We were unlucky to lose in my opinion probably did enough to get a point. That said we are useless, Sherwood will be a miracle worker if he keeps this shower up. We dont deserve to be in this league

[Phil from the upper holte]

Probably only plus is teams around us lost

[aev]

Senderos and Cole..... I know they haven't played today and I'm in a bad mood now but these two fucking leeches signing, another example of why we are where we are.

Most of our signings last summer - Cole, Senderos and Richardson - looked suspiciously like Championship signings at the time.

I didn't really understand why so many people were happy with our summer business. I thought it was fecking awful, and reeked of having absolutely zero ambition beyond not getting relegated.

I thought our January window was awful, too.

It isn't all about buying players, because too many of the ones we already have aren't producing, but I can't remember the last time we had a transfer window which really gave any encouragement.

To be fair, I thought Senderos started the season okay. But you're right, when he was linked, I think my exact words were 'Fucking Senderos?' Cole was never going to be a good fit as a Villa player either. Even the Spaniard we managed to get in was a bargain basement option.

It's not so much spending peanuts that bothered me. It was that it was yet another two windows where you couldn't tell what we were aiming for. I couldn't picture any of those signings taking us by the scruff of the neck, Dave Mackay style, and making us anything other than league meat.

Gil is a good player, as is Sanchez. Our problem is we get 2 players from a different league, playing different types of football and expect them to come in and be our saviours. We desperately need them to hit the ground running but it is a hell of a gamble doing this as not many actually do this over a sustained period.

Our league is quick and physical - if we had signed these 2 with some experienced quality players (ie expensive ones) then we would have reaped the benefits.

It is like filling your pension pot with penny shares.

[TopDeck113]

No goals; no points. Another Aston Villa Saturday (or Sunday/Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday...)

By about this time next week we'll be further adrift in the league and out of the Cup and, I venture, not scored in either game.  I think that's when the realization will dawn amongst even the most optimistic. 

[PeterWithe]

The teams around us losing is only a plus if we are out of the bottom 3

[ez]

It pains me to say it but the performance today is probably as good as it gets for us now. I don't think there is a any way to improve on the current lot.

[Villa in Denmark]

The teams around us losing is only a plus if we are out of the bottom 3

Not really, it means that we're not getting cut adrift (yet)

[Ron Manager]

If Tony Pullis had those players under his control you could have guaranteed he would have kept us up !00%. From what we have seen of Mr Sherwood and his selections in the two games he has had so far we stand absolutely no chance at all.

[PeterWithe]

The teams around us losing is only a plus if we are out of the bottom 3

Not really, it means that we're not getting cut adrift (yet)

I admire your positivity, I hate to say I think we are fucked, not only are we shit, we are shit and unlucky, a bad combination.