The Plot to Escape Relegation Thread 2015.

[olaftab]

Haha....no worries Mike and Dave I posted a scenario that is very very unlikely.

[nodge]

I don't usually care much about referees and where they come from but after Clattenburg's performance on Saturday I thought I'd have a look.  He's from Durham and is a Newcastle fan so he doesn't officiate at their games or Sunderlands by the looks of it.  He therefore clearly can't be trusted and shouldn't be involved in any matches involving any of the bottom 7 for the rest of this season. Just jokes, as the kids might say.  Interesting that he didn't ref an Everton game for about 5 years after his dodgy merseyside derby game in 2007ish.  Think he's got a soft spot for Liverpool, in 9 games they've played in the last 3 years when he's reffed they haven't lost, including 2 wins against us.   

[kippaxvilla2]

We hadn't lost 8 on the spin, with a manager blaming players for being sent off deliberately. I'd rather have Lambert rather than Carver, that's how bad Carver seems.

Newcastle were 10th when Pardew left, since then their record is

PL17 W2 D3 L12 F14 A33 GD-19

That includes a cup defeat at Leicester in the 3rd round.

Indeed.  And was their last victory against Villa at home?  That is how bad we were under Lamb....Sher.....bert

[brian green]

I went to Yorkshire on the bank holiday to admire my three fine grandsons.  On the way back there was a five mile queue on the A1. A car with a wheel hanging off was the cause of it and there on the grass bank sat four Newcastle fans all in their shirts. A greater picture of misery would be hard to imagine.

[Malandro]

I went to Yorkshire on the bank holiday to admire my three fine grandsons.  On the way back there was a five mile queue on the A1. A car with a wheel hanging off was the cause of it and there on the grass bank sat four Newcastle fans all in their shirts. A greater picture of misery would be hard to imagine.

shame you didn't get a photo, very appropriate image.

[dave shelley]

I don't usually care much about referees and where they come from but after Clattenburg's performance on Saturday I thought I'd have a look.  He's from Durham and is a Newcastle fan so he doesn't officiate at their games or Sunderlands by the looks of it.  He therefore clearly can't be trusted and shouldn't be involved in any matches involving any of the bottom 7 for the rest of this season. Just jokes, as the kids might say.  Interesting that he didn't ref an Everton game for about 5 years after his dodgy merseyside derby game in 2007ish.  Think he's got a soft spot for Liverpool, in 9 games they've played in the last 3 years when he's reffed they haven't lost, including 2 wins against us.   

The way things used to work Nodge; was like this: Football League referee's were appointed fixtures based on their geographical locations, for example, a former league referee of the Referee's Association of which I was a member was a born and bred Geordie who lived in Sutton Coldfield.  He was never appointed to fixtures involving teams from the West Midlands area but got games involving teams from the North East.  I believe now, as then you have to state any allegiances to a football club you may have.

[nodge]

I don't usually care much about referees and where they come from but after Clattenburg's performance on Saturday I thought I'd have a look.  He's from Durham and is a Newcastle fan so he doesn't officiate at their games or Sunderlands by the looks of it.  He therefore clearly can't be trusted and shouldn't be involved in any matches involving any of the bottom 7 for the rest of this season. Just jokes, as the kids might say.  Interesting that he didn't ref an Everton game for about 5 years after his dodgy merseyside derby game in 2007ish.  Think he's got a soft spot for Liverpool, in 9 games they've played in the last 3 years when he's reffed they haven't lost, including 2 wins against us.   

The way things used to work Nodge; was like this: Football League referee's were appointed fixtures based on their geographical locations, for example, a former league referee of the Referee's Association of which I was a member was a born and bred Geordie who lived in Sutton Coldfield.  He was never appointed to fixtures involving teams from the West Midlands area but got games involving teams from the North East.  I believe now, as then you have to state any allegiances to a football club you may have.

Cheers Dave, seems a fairly easy system to get around if you were that way inclined, like the ref in the book Oi Ref! but he was a Villa fan so he was okay.  I suppose you would need people who had not much interest in football but then why would they be a ref in the first place.  I've never seen so many people wound up by Clattenburg on Saturday and still wound up even though we won.  I usually come away from the game thinking the ref had a bit of a dodgy game only to watch it back on TV and you see a totally different side of it, but not on Saturday.

[brian green]

They looked very tough Mal, especially the women and I am a cowardy custard.

[liam]

I don't usually care much about referees and where they come from but after Clattenburg's performance on Saturday I thought I'd have a look.  He's from Durham and is a Newcastle fan so he doesn't officiate at their games or Sunderlands by the looks of it.  He therefore clearly can't be trusted and shouldn't be involved in any matches involving any of the bottom 7 for the rest of this season. Just jokes, as the kids might say.  Interesting that he didn't ref an Everton game for about 5 years after his dodgy merseyside derby game in 2007ish.  Think he's got a soft spot for Liverpool, in 9 games they've played in the last 3 years when he's reffed they haven't lost, including 2 wins against us.   

The way things used to work Nodge; was like this: Football League referee's were appointed fixtures based on their geographical locations, for example, a former league referee of the Referee's Association of which I was a member was a born and bred Geordie who lived in Sutton Coldfield.  He was never appointed to fixtures involving teams from the West Midlands area but got games involving teams from the North East.  I believe now, as then you have to state any allegiances to a football club you may have.

Cheers Dave, seems a fairly easy system to get around if you were that way inclined, like the ref in the book Oi Ref! but he was a Villa fan so he was okay.  I suppose you would need people who had not much interest in football but then why would they be a ref in the first place.  I've never seen so many people wound up by Clattenburg on Saturday and still wound up even though we won.  I usually come away from the game thinking the ref had a bit of a dodgy game only to watch it back on TV and you see a totally different side of it, but not on Saturday.

When you are a league ref you have to notify them of any club you or a family member have had a season ticket at, or own shares have a stake in etc... you can then not officiate those games. Was at a Q&A with Alan Wiley and he stated that last year, can't remember who he said he followed, but he still lives in the area and his daughter is a teacher at a local school near wolverhampton

[Tony Erdington]

I don't usually care much about referees and where they come from but after Clattenburg's performance on Saturday I thought I'd have a look.  He's from Durham and is a Newcastle fan so he doesn't officiate at their games or Sunderlands by the looks of it.  He therefore clearly can't be trusted and shouldn't be involved in any matches involving any of the bottom 7 for the rest of this season. Just jokes, as the kids might say.  Interesting that he didn't ref an Everton game for about 5 years after his dodgy merseyside derby game in 2007ish.  Think he's got a soft spot for Liverpool, in 9 games they've played in the last 3 years when he's reffed they haven't lost, including 2 wins against us.   

The way things used to work Nodge; was like this: Football League referee's were appointed fixtures based on their geographical locations, for example, a former league referee of the Referee's Association of which I was a member was a born and bred Geordie who lived in Sutton Coldfield.  He was never appointed to fixtures involving teams from the West Midlands area but got games involving teams from the North East.  I believe now, as then you have to state any allegiances to a football club you may have.

Cheers Dave, seems a fairly easy system to get around if you were that way inclined, like the ref in the book Oi Ref! but he was a Villa fan so he was okay.  I suppose you would need people who had not much interest in football but then why would they be a ref in the first place.  I've never seen so many people wound up by Clattenburg on Saturday and still wound up even though we won.  I usually come away from the game thinking the ref had a bit of a dodgy game only to watch it back on TV and you see a totally different side of it, but not on Saturday.

When you are a league ref you have to notify them of any club you or a family member have had a season ticket at, or own shares have a stake in etc... you can then not officiate those games. Was at a Q&A with Alan Wiley and he stated that last year, can't remember who he said he followed, but he still lives in the area and his daughter is a teacher at a local school near wolverhampton

Good thread, I was one of those wound up on Saturday, the penalty was harsh, and clattenberg was very quick to award, evertons second goal was also dubious as the everton player definitely obstructed Given, Villa should put an official complaint into the FA, as we still won, and to complain when you loose can look like sour grapes.

Personally I have never seen clattenberg have a good game at Villa Park, this rubbish about him being one of the best, is just that, Rubbish.

[ciggiesnbeer]

I don't usually care much about referees and where they come from but after Clattenburg's performance on Saturday I thought I'd have a look.  He's from Durham and is a Newcastle fan so he doesn't officiate at their games or Sunderlands by the looks of it.  He therefore clearly can't be trusted and shouldn't be involved in any matches involving any of the bottom 7 for the rest of this season. Just jokes, as the kids might say.  Interesting that he didn't ref an Everton game for about 5 years after his dodgy merseyside derby game in 2007ish.  Think he's got a soft spot for Liverpool, in 9 games they've played in the last 3 years when he's reffed they haven't lost, including 2 wins against us.   

The way things used to work Nodge; was like this: Football League referee's were appointed fixtures based on their geographical locations, for example, a former league referee of the Referee's Association of which I was a member was a born and bred Geordie who lived in Sutton Coldfield.  He was never appointed to fixtures involving teams from the West Midlands area but got games involving teams from the North East.  I believe now, as then you have to state any allegiances to a football club you may have.

Cheers Dave, seems a fairly easy system to get around if you were that way inclined, like the ref in the book Oi Ref! but he was a Villa fan so he was okay.  I suppose you would need people who had not much interest in football but then why would they be a ref in the first place.  I've never seen so many people wound up by Clattenburg on Saturday and still wound up even though we won.  I usually come away from the game thinking the ref had a bit of a dodgy game only to watch it back on TV and you see a totally different side of it, but not on Saturday.

It really was bad. Rewatching the game it was worse. Everyone has bad days but he genuinely came across as consistently biased against us. I hope it gets reviewed and he recognizes he had a very bad day then keeps it in mind the for the next time he refs us.

I do not dislike the bloke, I think he is capable is very good performances but he potentially cost us our premier league status the other day and he did it in a manner that suggested he really disliked our club. That is now a problem for his credibility, regardless of how he really feels.

[Gerrin]

On the subject if referees, I think we need to start worrying about the Cup Final ref John Moss, another dreadful mistake by him on Saturday, interesting to see if Burnley win their appeal.

[Malandro]

They looked very tough Mal, especially the women and I am a cowardy custard.

You'll have to do some covert training.

[Toronto Villa]

I only really care about who refs who make mistakes against us, and not against our relegation rivals. I call them friends.

[Jon Crofts]

They looked very tough Mal, especially the women and I am a cowardy custard.

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