The Plot to Escape Relegation Thread 2015.

[supertom]

I don't think so. Pardew never had them in this situation. I think a decent manager will have them safely in mid table as they do have some talent in that squad.

Not sure which bits of it are going to be left. Cisse, Coloccini, Sissoko and Krul are all rumoured to want to leave this summer.

Take them out and there isn't a whole lot left.

Similar was said about Southampton last summer. I know a lot of what they've done is down to their manager but nobody knows who they'll appoint as manager.

I'd completely disagree. Most of what Southampton have got right is down to the sensible structure that is in place behind the manager, much like at Swansea. So that if a manager or players leave, the framework is in place to carry on.

I'm not sure that's something that you can say about Newcastle.

Newcastle are a shambles. In recent years, but for Pardew's ability to put together good runs of form (albeit in patches), they'd have gone down. They've had good runs under him and awful runs. The good runs have kept them well out of danger. Indeed Pardews work at Newcastle this season is largely what will keep them up as Carver is clearly in over his head.

So their next appointment needs to be someone capable of going on a good run. They've got a lot of poor players. There are some really good ones, but not the sort who really seem to muck in when the chips are down.
Mike Ashley must also be a fucking nightmare to work for.

[Gregorys Boy]

I don't think so. Pardew never had them in this situation. I think a decent manager will have them safely in mid table as they do have some talent in that squad.

Not sure which bits of it are going to be left. Cisse, Coloccini, Sissoko and Krul are all rumoured to want to leave this summer.

Take them out and there isn't a whole lot left.

Similar was said about Southampton last summer. I know a lot of what they've done is down to their manager but nobody knows who they'll appoint as manager.

I'd completely disagree. Most of what Southampton have got right is down to the sensible structure that is in place behind the manager, much like at Swansea. So that if a manager or players leave, the framework is in place to carry on.

I'm not sure that's something that you can say about Newcastle.

Newcastle are a shambles. In recent years, but for Pardew's ability to put together good runs of form (albeit in patches), they'd have gone down. They've had good runs under him and awful runs. The good runs have kept them well out of danger. Indeed Pardews work at Newcastle this season is largely what will keep them up as Carver is clearly in over his head.

So their next appointment needs to be someone capable of going on a good run. They've got a lot of poor players. There are some really good ones, but not the sort who really seem to muck in when the chips are down.
Mike Ashley must also be a fucking nightmare to work for.

Also, previous Newcastle squads have had just enough good players to keep them at least solid.  But I think the present squad is starting to look really thin and light on quality.  If they get the next apointment wrong then I think they will be one of the strong favourites for the drop next season.

[OCD]

I don't think so. Pardew never had them in this situation. I think a decent manager will have them safely in mid table as they do have some talent in that squad.

Not sure which bits of it are going to be left. Cisse, Coloccini, Sissoko and Krul are all rumoured to want to leave this summer.

Take them out and there isn't a whole lot left.

Similar was said about Southampton last summer. I know a lot of what they've done is down to their manager but nobody knows who they'll appoint as manager.

I'd completely disagree. Most of what Southampton have got right is down to the sensible structure that is in place behind the manager, much like at Swansea. So that if a manager or players leave, the framework is in place to carry on.

I'm not sure that's something that you can say about Newcastle.

I agree that Southampton have a good set-up but Koeman deserves credit too. It was the set-up that identified Koeman though.

Newcastle have had successes from their scouting department over the last few years but they underestimated the job that Pardew was doing for them. Their managerial appointment will make or break them. Had Southampton got the wrong man they would have struggled too.

Newcastle have really shot themselves in the foot by selling their best players too. Their record with and without Cabeye showed how important he was.

[mike]

Judging by the comments about other clubs, I take it that no one else is still a bit worried about our situation? I probably just need to grow a pair!

[Richard E]

Judging by the comments about other clubs, I take it that no one else is still a bit worried about our situation? I probably just need to grow a pair!

BELIEVE!!!

[KevinGage]

Judging by the comments about other clubs, I take it that no one else is still a bit worried about our situation? I probably just need to grow a pair!

I'm still worried.

No league game this weekend, Man Citeh away the following week (which based on our record up there looks like the definition of a home banker, even if they have slipped a bit recently) which means we're into May before we'll realistically pick up three points again.

If we don't manage that against Everton, the pressure will be huge.

[PaulWinch again]

Judging by the comments about other clubs, I take it that no one else is still a bit worried about our situation? I probably just need to grow a pair!

I'm hopeful results will go our way this weekend. But I think realistically we maybe need three more points and I'm fairly confident we'll get those.

[Legion]

I'll be shaking like a shitting puppy [(c) pauliewalnuts] until we are mathematically clear of danger.

[ADVILLAFAN]

We should pick up some points from our last 4 games:-

Everton (h)
Southampton (a)
West Ham (a)
Burnley (a)

Not holding out much hope against Citeh away.

[Dave]

If we don't manage that against Everton, the pressure will be huge.

It wouldn't be a huge surprise if we went into those last four matches still 4-6 points clear.

If we hadn't got that win at Spurs then I'd still be a bit concerned, but we're 12-1 to go down for a reason (which I think is as long as the odds have been since that good run at the start of the season).

[PaulWinch again]

We should pick up some points from our last 4 games:-

Everton (h)
Southampton (a)
West Ham (a)
Burnley (a)

Not holding out much hope against Citeh away.

Burnley and West Ham are at home.
Burnley

[PaulWinch again]

If we don't manage that against Everton, the pressure will be huge.

It wouldn't be a huge surprise if we went into those last four matches still 4-6 points clear.

If we hadn't got that win at Spurs then I'd still be a bit concerned, but we're 12-1 to go down for a reason (which I think is as long as the odds have been since that good run at the start of the season).

Yep that Spurs win and the results around us last weekend were huge.

[ADVILLAFAN]

We should pick up some points from our last 4 games:-

Everton (h)
Southampton (a)
West Ham (a)
Burnley (a)

Not holding out much hope against Citeh away.

Burnley and West Ham are at home.
Burnley

Sorry, typing quickly at work and not checking what I'd done.

[Ads]

Judging by the comments about other clubs, I take it that no one else is still a bit worried about our situation? I probably just need to grow a pair!

I'm still worried.

No league game this weekend, Man Citeh away the following week (which based on our record up there looks like the definition of a home banker, even if they have slipped a bit recently) which means we're into May before we'll realistically pick up three points again.

If we don't manage that against Everton, the pressure will be huge.

Man City have lost 6 out of 8. They're shitting it at the prospect of facing us.

[AVH87]

Judging by the comments about other clubs, I take it that no one else is still a bit worried about our situation? I probably just need to grow a pair!

I'm still worried.

No league game this weekend, Man Citeh away the following week (which based on our record up there looks like the definition of a home banker, even if they have slipped a bit recently) which means we're into May before we'll realistically pick up three points again.

If we don't manage that against Everton, the pressure will be huge.

Man City have lost 6 out of 8. They're shitting it at the prospect of facing us.

Are they really though? I can't imagine many City fans expecting anything other than 3 points, given the two club's league positions and their PL home record against us.