The Plot to Escape Relegation Thread 2015.

[silhillvilla]

I think we can win our next 4 games .
Tuesday is the key

[supertom]

I think there's a lot of truth in what you say, supertom.   God knows I don't want the ignominy of relegation, but what will survival mean? The same as the last few seasons: another season of struggle.  It's easy to speculate, but if we'd gone under McLeish, I reckon we could have genuinely done the "young and hungry" thing in the Championship and would probably be back up or at least chasing promotion with a team that would be doing the club proud.  I'd even go so far as to say that Lambert may have done a very good job for us in that scenario,  As it is the malaise has had even longer to set in, and I reckon that will make a quick turnaround much harder. 

If the Footballing God's are smiling upon us we'll get a new owner who genuinely wants to build something and in the right way.

I don't want relegation either. I'd never want it, but I'm just sensing it might be the only thing to light a rocket underneath Randy's backside.

[OCD]

Relegation doesn't achieve anything. I don't believe this thing about if we stayed up, the cycle would continue. The fans have had enough, there's a new manager who must realise the depth of problems and even at boardroom there must be a few home truths being realised (just later than they should have). Added to that the financial situation appears to have been addressed (unless we go down) and there's good things happening behind the scenes. It's just unfortunate for us that they've forgotten that first and foremost, we are a football club. There's always hope of a takeover - that may be a long shot but not as long a shot as it was a year ago when the accounts were a mess.

[Ad@m]

I've posted similar on a different thread but there's no point fearing relegation.

We last won a league game almost 3 months ago. For all the negatives relegation would bring, it can't possibly be any worse than this season.

[itbrvilla]

I've posted similar on a different thread but there's no point fearing relegation.

We last won a league game almost 3 months ago. For all the negatives relegation would bring, it can't possibly be any worse than this season.

Apart from the long term damage to the club.

[Ad@m]

I've posted similar on a different thread but there's no point fearing relegation.

We last won a league game almost 3 months ago. For all the negatives relegation would bring, it can't possibly be any worse than this season.

Apart from the long term damage to the club.

Because, what with an owner desperate to sell, a manager no-one really wanted, a squad that isn't good enough, debts of over £100m, crowds at their lowest for years and people outside the club wishing we'll go down because we're so desperately boring to watch, the club currently looks in fantastic health?!

[itbrvilla]

I've posted similar on a different thread but there's no point fearing relegation.

We last won a league game almost 3 months ago. For all the negatives relegation would bring, it can't possibly be any worse than this season.

Apart from the long term damage to the club.

Because, what with an owner desperate to sell, a manager no-one really wanted, a squad that isn't good enough, debts of over £100m, crowds at their lowest for years and people outside the club wishing we'll go down because we're so desperately boring to watch, the club currently looks in fantastic health?!

And relegation will make it even worse.

[Ad@m]

I've posted similar on a different thread but there's no point fearing relegation.

We last won a league game almost 3 months ago. For all the negatives relegation would bring, it can't possibly be any worse than this season.

Apart from the long term damage to the club.

Because, what with an owner desperate to sell, a manager no-one really wanted, a squad that isn't good enough, debts of over £100m, crowds at their lowest for years and people outside the club wishing we'll go down because we're so desperately boring to watch, the club currently looks in fantastic health?!

And relegation will make it even worse.

How? When we last won a league game we were only just out of November.

[itbrvilla]

Have a look at Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Forest. I think were more likely to struggle than bounce straight back up with the utter shit we have, and all the clubs lining up to have a pop at the Villa. If we weren't to come straight back up it will o ly end up getting more difficult for us as time goes by. Then we lose more revenue on top of the £100+ million. We'll be seen like we view Newcastle by outsiders so the reputation and standing in the gaw will also take a hit. Everyone says they don't give a shit what other clubs fans think of us, but I'm sure deep down most of us are hurt when we here fans talk about our club. What a fucking mess.

[Ad@m]

If all you care about is what other people think about your teams result's then go support Chelsea, or Man City. Or even Real Madrid or Munich. For me, I want to see Villa win games - regularly, not every 3 months.

Supporting Villa has just become so joyless the past few years. I absolutely don't want to see us to get relegated but after the past few years it's not going to upset me if we do.

[Des Little]

I won't re-state all the facts because we all know them. The bottom line is that we fully deserve to drop, and unless a miracle occurs we are down. We've had this coming for 3 years so it should come as no surprise. Simply not good enough.

[Dave]

If all you care about is what other people think about your teams result's then go support Chelsea, or Man City. Or even Real Madrid or Munich. For me, I want to see Villa win games - regularly, not every 3 months.

Supporting Villa has just become so joyless the past few years. I absolutely don't want to see us to get relegated but after the past few years it's not going to upset me if we do.

I'm with you. We're going to go down at some point.  If it's this season, then it's this season. If it's not, then it'll be another one.

Every decision that the club has made over the past couple of years (and several in the years before that) has pointed in that direction.

[itbrvilla]

If all you care about is what other people think about your teams result's then go support Chelsea, or Man City. Or even Real Madrid or Munich. For me, I want to see Villa win games - regularly, not every 3 months.

Supporting Villa has just become so joyless the past few years. I absolutely don't want to see us to get relegated but after the past few years it's not going to upset me if we do.

I never said that.

[tomd2103]

Relegation doesn't achieve anything. I don't believe this thing about if we stayed up, the cycle would continue. The fans have had enough, there's a new manager who must realise the depth of problems and even at boardroom there must be a few home truths being realised (just later than they should have). Added to that the financial situation appears to have been addressed (unless we go down) and there's good things happening behind the scenes. It's just unfortunate for us that they've forgotten that first and foremost, we are a football club. There's always hope of a takeover - that may be a long shot but not as long a shot as it was a year ago when the accounts were a mess.

Sometimes it does though.  Once a malaise has set in, it sometimes needs the shock of relegation to make a club act.  The highly paid time wasters are moved on and if the season goes well, the remaining players get a bit of confidence.  It doesn't always work out like that though and things can go from bad to worse. 

[OzVilla]

If all you care about is what other people think about your teams result's then go support Chelsea, or Man City. Or even Real Madrid or Munich. For me, I want to see Villa win games - regularly, not every 3 months.

Supporting Villa has just become so joyless the past few years. I absolutely don't want to see us to get relegated but after the past few years it's not going to upset me if we do.

I'm with you. We're going to go down at some point.  If it's this season, then it's this season. If it's not, then it'll be another one.

Every decision that the club has made over the past couple of years (and several in the years before that) has pointed in that direction.

I agree. I'm rapidly losing interest because there's really no hope that well see entertaining and sometimes winning football any time soon. Whats the point of being in a division and get humiliated every week. I gave up on the Champions League once our owner did.

So Yes I guess that means we've become Blose in that respect. Thanks Randy you complete fuckwit.