Press-ing along

[teamvillage]

I would rather be swanning around in the mid-table of the Championship and treat our staff properly than in the Champions League and paying minimum wage.

[DeKuip]

In all fairness, it's a bit much to expect somebody serving burgers and pies to receive more than the minimum wage. If they did that job elsewhere, minimum wage is all they would get. If people see it as a problem then it's not a Villa problem it's a problem with this country as a whole.

Are the matchday catering staff employed by Villa? I'm sure we used to franchise this out as a lot clubs did/do, but don't know if that's changed in recent years.
You'd think that with the prices charged they'd be able to launch our bottle top removers into the higher tax bracket.

[DeKuip]

He (Tom Fox) "wouldn’t commit to paying all club staff the Living Wage". What did Tom Fox say? And which staff at Villa Park don't get a living wage? Is it catering contracted match day staff? Or someone else? Ticket office, ground staff?

Was the subject of season ticket prices brought up with Mr Fox, and whether they'd be dropped to a fairer level in light of the new cash windfall?

[taylorsworkrate]

In all fairness, it's a bit much to expect somebody serving burgers and pies to receive more than the minimum wage. If they did that job elsewhere, minimum wage is all they would get. If people see it as a problem then it's not a Villa problem it's a problem with this country as a whole.

It is clearly a problem that minimum wage is so pathetically low. The living wage should be the minimum that anyone is paid for their labour, regardless of what job they do.

You are right that it's not the clubs responsibility. However, considering the fact that they could easily afford to pay all staff a fair wage, then morally why wouldn't they? Why not buck the trend?

[Damo70]

He (Tom Fox) "wouldn’t commit to paying all club staff the Living Wage". What did Tom Fox say? And which staff at Villa Park don't get a living wage? Is it catering contracted match day staff? Or someone else? Ticket office, ground staff?

Was the subject of season ticket prices brought up with Mr Fox, and whether they'd be dropped to a fairer level in light of the new cash windfall?

They will probably go up if there are eight more league games.

[taylorsworkrate]

In all fairness, it's a bit much to expect somebody serving burgers and pies to receive more than the minimum wage.

This isn't having a go at you, but this is a ingrained attitude towards retail staff that many people have.

It's part of the reason why many people treat retail staff like dirt and its such a horrible job to do.

[AVH87]

In all fairness, it's a bit much to expect somebody serving burgers and pies to receive more than the minimum wage.

This isn't having a go at you, but this is a ingrained attitude towards retail staff that many people have.

It's part of the reason why many people treat retail staff like dirt and its such a horrible job to do.

There is certainly no excuse for treating people on minimum wage with any less respect than those in other professions.

I used to work in a pub a few years ago, so only got minimum wage. However, I didn't feel I was entitled to more for pouring pints and wiping tables. My answer was to get qualifications that would mean I justified a higher salary.

[dave.woodhall]

In all fairness, it's a bit much to expect somebody serving burgers and pies to receive more than the minimum wage.

This isn't having a go at you, but this is a ingrained attitude towards retail staff that many people have.

It's part of the reason why many people treat retail staff like dirt and its such a horrible job to do.

There is certainly no excuse for treating people on minimum wage with any less respect than those in other professions.

I used to work in a pub a few years ago, so only got minimum wage. However, I didn't feel I was entitled to more for pouring pints and wiping tables. My answer was to get qualifications that would mean I justified a higher salary.

I think you're missing the point a bit. Villa, and all other Premier League clubs, can afford to pay all their employees a decent wage purely because it's the right thing to do.

[Risso]

In all fairness, it's a bit much to expect somebody serving burgers and pies to receive more than the minimum wage.

This isn't having a go at you, but this is a ingrained attitude towards retail staff that many people have.

It's part of the reason why many people treat retail staff like dirt and its such a horrible job to do.

There is certainly no excuse for treating people on minimum wage with any less respect than those in other professions.

I used to work in a pub a few years ago, so only got minimum wage. However, I didn't feel I was entitled to more for pouring pints and wiping tables. My answer was to get qualifications that would mean I justified a higher salary.

I think you're missing the point a bit. Villa, and all other Premier League clubs, can afford to pay all their employees a decent wage purely because it's the right thing to do.

Paying say, 600 staff an extra £1 an hour, for 5 hours a day for 35 weeks of the year would cost about £100K a year.  That's probably what we're paying Darren Bent every fortnight to play for somebody else.

[Villa in Denmark]

There's a world of difference between a pub that's probably struggling to break even (have you ever met a rich landlord?) payimg their staff minimum wage and any top flight club being happy to pay players £30-60,000 per week denying their catering staff, turnstile staff and such like an extra £40/week.

How would a match day go if they all decided one Saturday morning "fuck this, I can't be bothered!" If they're sub-contracted through an agency, then they're probably all on zero hours contracts as well.

[brian green]

The entire landscape of Money And Football is like the plot of a late night opera on Radio 3.   On the one hand you have bar staff, serving pints of lager at £3.80 getting less than the national stated minimum wage while the same club they are handing the £3.80s over to, pays lazy players millions a year and terminally incompetent managers millions in compensation to go away.   It's like a drug addict demanding organically grown opium.

[andrew08]

I would rather be swanning around in the mid-table of the Championship and treat our staff properly than in the Champions League and paying minimum wage.

Well some of that will be coming true!

When the gates are 20000 on a Tuesday night v Say, Ipswich a good chunk of the staff won't even be working.

[tomd2103]

I would rather be swanning around in the mid-table of the Championship and treat our staff properly than in the Champions League and paying minimum wage.

Really?

[andrew08]

I don't understand the issue really. So some student who works for 3 hours on a Saturday to earn a bit of dosh should be getting the same as Darren Bent and as we don't pay that we should be ashamed of ourselves and deserve to be relegated.

I see.

You know when I was a lad back in the day etc etc I used to get to Villa Park at midday for a Saturday kick off and I was given a rag which I used to dust the old wooden seats with. For that I got a packet of the saltiest crisps known to man and a plastic bottle of orange squash. I also got a free pass onto the Holte End to see Little, Gray, Sid, Shaw etc etc.....being paid never crossed my mind.

[silhillvilla]

When you witness players not even trying - arsenal away for example and the 2nd half at hull you know you have a major problem.
Hopefully Tim Sherwood has the management skills to bang some heads together and get them at least trying.