Aston Villa vs Stoke Post Match Thread

[Toronto Villa]

Can't fault sherwood really at all.

Hang on, I thought the reason why he was a good option was the he could provide an instant lift and raise their games with his praise and positivity?

If he's not been brought in to do that, what is he here for? Based on today (and his whole managerial career), it's not his incisive tactical mind.

So you've judged him already after one week at the club and one game? And the games he lost in the PL like today are because he doesn't have an incisive tactical mind, so how about those that he won? Luck I assume?

I get that you don't like him, and he's a bad hire, but you're not showing much balance there are you in your assessment?

[Risso]

Can't fault sherwood really at all.

Hang on, I thought the reason why he was a good option was the he could provide an instant lift and raise their games with his praise and positivity?

If he's not been brought in to do that, what is he here for? Based on today (and his whole managerial career), it's not his incisive tactical mind.

Well, we were on for a point until Captain Conked-out intervened, and the first half saw more attacking intent than Lambert managed in the last dozen matches.  Nothing to write home about admittedly, but at least it would have seen us out of the bottom three which would have given the place a lift.

I'm not entirely sure that Mourinho and Guardiola could do much with the current three forwards we have stinking out the place.

[Stu]

Can I call for some calm. Sherwood isn't going to turn things round in 5 days. This will take a few weeks for him to even make a mark after the last year's of decline.

We may well go down but that's because of what happened pre Sherwood.

That is precisely the alarming bit; we should have had a new manager putting his stamp on the place and sussing out how to turn things around a month ago, at least. As it is we lie 19th in the table, look as bad as ever and there's 12 games left to save ourselves. I think relegation might just happen this time.

All in hindsight of course, but that would have also allowed him to bring in any players he felt necessary.  As it is, he's got to work with what he has got.

I don't think I'm speaking from hindsight; Lambert should have gone last summer. Now it's too late for the new guy to make much difference, IMO. The change should have been made when there was time to make a difference, most people, on here anyway, agreed.

[Toronto Villa]

It's not too late.

[PeterWithesShin]

Really pissed me off seeing folks applaud Vlaar off. The twat had just cost us a vital point, why applaud him for it?

[walsall villain]

Couldn't be more depressed but I see oddschecker.com still have us as 4th most likely to go down. I'd love to believe it but am struggling to see how. Mind you I suppose we were one cock up from getting out of the bottom three today.

[Stu]

Can't fault sherwood really at all.

Hang on, I thought the reason why he was a good option was the he could provide an instant lift and raise their games with his praise and positivity?

If he's not been brought in to do that, what is he here for? Based on today (and his whole managerial career), it's not his incisive tactical mind.

...and the first half saw more attacking intent than Lambert managed in the last dozen matches.

We scored (!), granted, but I didn't think we worried Stoke overmuch other than that. Plus they had injuries in defence; it wasn't even their first choice back four.

[b23]

4-4-2 ?
3-5-1 ?
5-3-1 ?

3-3-3-1 ? Bring it on.

[tomd2103]

Can I call for some calm. Sherwood isn't going to turn things round in 5 days. This will take a few weeks for him to even make a mark after the last year's of decline.

We may well go down but that's because of what happened pre Sherwood.

That is precisely the alarming bit; we should have had a new manager putting his stamp on the place and sussing out how to turn things around a month ago, at least. As it is we lie 19th in the table, look as bad as ever and there's 12 games left to save ourselves. I think relegation might just happen this time.

All in hindsight of course, but that would have also allowed him to bring in any players he felt necessary.  As it is, he's got to work with what he has got.

I don't think I'm speaking from hindsight; Lambert should have gone last summer. Now it's too late for the new guy to make much difference, IMO. The change should have been made when there was time to make a difference, most people, on here anyway, agreed.

I meant I was talking with the benefit of hindsight!!  Again looking back, the poor defeats at QPR and Everton earlier in the season should have seen the end of Lambert's time at the club.  The failure to win against some of the lower teams in the games that followed those two have been very costly. 

[OCD]

Can't fault sherwood really at all.

Hang on, I thought the reason why he was a good option was the he could provide an instant lift and raise their games with his praise and positivity?

If he's not been brought in to do that, what is he here for? Based on today (and his whole managerial career), it's not his incisive tactical mind.

...and the first half saw more attacking intent than Lambert managed in the last dozen matches.

We scored (!), granted, but I didn't think we worried Stoke overmuch other than that. Plus they had injuries in defence; it wasn't even their first choice back four.

The one centre back, who I had never heard of, had a blinder and was easily man of the match.

[Risso]

Really pissed me off seeing folks applaud Vlaar off. The twat had just cost us a vital point, why applaud him for it?

Are you sure it wasn't the Stoke fans.  Surely nobody could have applauded that?

[PeterWithesShin]

I was in the concourse when it happened but on the screens I saw him being applauded as he was walking off. No idea how many did, but some definitely did.

[Stu]

Can I call for some calm. Sherwood isn't going to turn things round in 5 days. This will take a few weeks for him to even make a mark after the last year's of decline.

We may well go down but that's because of what happened pre Sherwood.

That is precisely the alarming bit; we should have had a new manager putting his stamp on the place and sussing out how to turn things around a month ago, at least. As it is we lie 19th in the table, look as bad as ever and there's 12 games left to save ourselves. I think relegation might just happen this time.

All in hindsight of course, but that would have also allowed him to bring in any players he felt necessary.  As it is, he's got to work with what he has got.

I don't think I'm speaking from hindsight; Lambert should have gone last summer. Now it's too late for the new guy to make much difference, IMO. The change should have been made when there was time to make a difference, most people, on here anyway, agreed.

I meant I was talking with the benefit of hindsight!!  Again looking back, the poor defeats at QPR and Everton earlier in the season should have seen the end of Lambert's time at the club.  The failure to win against some of the lower teams in the games that followed those two have been very costly.

Gotcha. I'm off to bed!

[Louzie0]

Irritating but not the end of the world.
Next match we win.

[tomd2103]

4-4-2 ?
3-5-1 ?
5-3-1 ?

3-3-3-1 ? Bring it on.

4-5-1 for the next game with a team of (presuming all are fit):

                  Guzan

Hutton      Okore   Clark       Richardson

Bacuna     Sanchez    Delph       Sinclair

                        Gil

                     Benteke