Aston Villa vs Stoke City Match Thread

[JUAN PABLO]

championship player

[hilts_coolerking]

Co-commentaor says as Ireland goes off "one or two spectacular goals from Ireland in his time here". Really? 'cos I missed all of those

Yes I just heard that.  Is it Dowie?  Talking out of his arse.  We only saw one of any sort didn't we?

[Jimbo]

Weimann, why man?

[Bad English]

Oh fuck off Andi!

[JUAN PABLO]

damn  thought that was it

[ez]

It'll take time for any new manager to make a difference, which is why Lambert should have been sacked last month. We still look like a Lambert team; no confidence, no ideas, no discernable game plan and no goal threat.

Was hoping for that new manager bounce though and we haven't even had that really. Worrying times

I think we had it against Leicester. That was it.

[supertom]

Wow a decent corner.

[Toronto Villa]

Weimann has been awful since he came on.

Corner


Fuck me Clark close there

[Risso]

Weimann has put in an actual 0 out of 10 performance today.

[JUAN PABLO]

hutton is awesome one minute and donkey the next

[Jimbo]

Four minutes?

[Monty]

Well it's true I don't like the system, but really I'm unsure how it was down to the it that we scored. With respect, you haven't answered the specifics of my point at all. I don't like it because of how we're playing today. It's how teams who play with this sort of setup always play.

Put it this way: we've played other systems and had much worse days than this.  In fact things have been so bad that this is one of our better games.  I know you have an ideological objection to 442 as if it's some sort of horrific totalitarian nightmare but Sherwood can't afford to play theoretically.  He has to play the system he has most faith in, which he believes the players are most comfortable with and, above all, which he thinks will get us the greatest number of points.  He's got 12 games to go.  It's easy for you, or me, or anyone, to say '442 is dead' but you, me, or anyone, don't have the responsibility of getting the points.

It's not theory. Under Lambert, it didn't matter what he did, system-wise, but last weekend we saw Sherwoodian enthusiasm plus a 4-3-3 which gave us late runners from midfield. You're saying Sherwood has 'faith' in a system. I don't want him to faith. I want him to have thoughts, and to see when things aren't working.

The reason I don't like 4-4-2 isn't just some intellectual masturbation. It's because whenever it's played the team plays shit in an entirely predictable way.

[Toronto Villa]

Ciaran Clark is a real bright spot this season. He has come on leaps and bounds.

[kippaxvilla2]

How much injury time?

[Toronto Villa]

Weimann has put in an actual 0 out of 10 performance today.

generous