Gabby

[bill]

Over how many years. His average per season is now in single figures. Not too many have been worse.

[PeterWithesShin]

I've given Gabby plenty of stick the last few years as I think he's underachieved and looked like he's staying firmly in a comfort zone, but i'd never say he has never been good for us.

[Toronto Villa]

It's my opinion. Always has been. Don't rate him never have. Goals per game over his career is mediocre, a very limited player with one asset ,pace. if you rate him fine.Thats your opinion, your perfectly entitled to it. But I have in my time seen the best at VP. He is not amongst them.

Not many Villa players have scored 73 premier league goals though. Not to be sniffed at.

With the biggest criticism (despite that being a decent number for a player not always played in a central striker position) is that could still have had many more goals.

[LeeB]

Both of those players would be a vast improvement on Gabby.

Shut up would they.

[bill]

Not that old chestnut. His miss yesterday can go along all the others over the years, from a central position.

[bill]

Both of those players would be a vast improvement on Gabby.

Shut up would they.

Yes

[LeeB]

Not that old chestnut. His miss yesterday can go along all the others over the years, from a central position.

Along with those misses at Old Trafford, Anfield, The Emirates, Stamford Bridge, White Hart Lane....etc.

Oh sorry, I meant 'goals'.

[Toronto Villa]

Not that old chestnut. His miss yesterday can go along all the others over the years, from a central position.

Oh ok so playing on the left wing had no affect on his goals total?

Listen, we're all for reasoned debate but clearly you've come on here to tell us how wrong we all are and how utterly shit he is and nothing is going to sway that opinion.

[saunders_heroes]

It's my opinion. Always has been. Don't rate him never have. Goals per game over his career is mediocre, a very limited player with one asset ,pace. if you rate him fine.Thats your opinion, your perfectly entitled to it. But I have in my time seen the best at VP. He is not amongst them.

Not many Villa players have scored 73 premier league goals though. Not to be sniffed at.

With the biggest criticism (despite that being a decent number for a player not always played in a central striker position) is that could still have had many more goals.

Yep, but he could have scored fewer as well. I'm a big fan of Gabby, yeah he should be more prolific but boy does he have a habit of getting the big goals, and we still have a certain big game to play before this season ends.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I've given Gabby plenty of stick the last few years as I think he's underachieved and looked like he's staying firmly in a comfort zone, but i'd never say he has never been good for us.

One thing that rarely gets a mention in his defence is the number of shit managers/coaches he's worked with since breaking into the first team squad. Is it any wonder a kid that came into the game late doesn't have the best technical ability.

[Toronto Villa]

It's my opinion. Always has been. Don't rate him never have. Goals per game over his career is mediocre, a very limited player with one asset ,pace. if you rate him fine.Thats your opinion, your perfectly entitled to it. But I have in my time seen the best at VP. He is not amongst them.

Not many Villa players have scored 73 premier league goals though. Not to be sniffed at.

With the biggest criticism (despite that being a decent number for a player not always played in a central striker position) is that could still have had many more goals.

Yep, but he could have scored fewer as well. I'm a big fan of Gabby, yeah he should be more prolific but boy does he have a habit of getting the big goals, and we still have a certain big game to play before this season ends.

You won't get an argument from me SH. Some of those massive goals are worth double or triple in terms of their value.

[bill]

Not that old chestnut. His miss yesterday can go along all the others over the years, from a central position.

Oh ok so playing on the left wing had no affect on his goals total?

Listen, we're all for reasoned debate but clearly you've come on here to tell us how wrong we all are and how utterly shit he is and nothing is going to sway that opinion.

Nope 'as I said earlier , you have a perfect right to your opinion. Mine is different is all. And I still don't rate him.

[PeterWithesShin]

I've given Gabby plenty of stick the last few years as I think he's underachieved and looked like he's staying firmly in a comfort zone, but i'd never say he has never been good for us.

One thing that rarely gets a mention in his defence is the number of shit managers/coaches he's worked with since breaking into the first team squad. Is it any wonder a kid that came into the game late doesn't have the best technical ability.

Late? he's been with us since he was 8 and made his debut at 19, you've lost me there TSOV.

[bill]

Not that old chestnut. His miss yesterday can go along all the others over the years, from a central position.

Oh ok so playing on the left wing had no affect on his goals total?

Listen, we're all for reasoned debate but clearly you've come on here to tell us how wrong we all are and how utterly shit he is and nothing is going to sway that opinion.

Remember seeing Ray Graydon play on the wing for Villa, season 74/75.....he scored 37 goals that season. Good players will score wherever they play.

[LeeB]

Not that old chestnut. His miss yesterday can go along all the others over the years, from a central position.

Oh ok so playing on the left wing had no affect on his goals total?

Listen, we're all for reasoned debate but clearly you've come on here to tell us how wrong we all are and how utterly shit he is and nothing is going to sway that opinion.

Remember seeing Ray Graydon play on the wing for Villa, season 74/75.....he scored 37 goals that season. Good players will score wherever they play.

Wasn't that in the second division though?