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Author Topic: It's not Sherwood!  (Read 729461 times)

Offline class-of-82

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6285 on: March 05, 2016, 08:18:36 AM »
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When you say luck doesn't exist
Can you honestly say that Sunderland didn't ride there luck at vp this season we should of battered them was it luck or not that Richards threw himself in front of the ball at the Holte and the ball hit his ass and into pantilimons hands
Man Utd at vp this season ? Was they better than us no way they did us with a deflected goal
West Ham second half at vp
And I'm sure people can add there own games

Maybe I should take my claret n blue tinted glasses off

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6286 on: March 05, 2016, 08:42:56 AM »
It's easy forget the baffling decisions Sherwood was making at the start of the seasons. I have never felt so strongly that the manager alone was responsible for a defeat quite like I did after Leicester away. Stoke, West Brom, Swansea. All strange games, where we were playing ok in spells against other struggling sides, but all lost to odd decisions, mistakes and game management. However, his admission that the players were unfit (something that was plain to see anyway) was the biggest problem of all. He hadn't performed one of the most important duties of any manager over pre-season.

I don't have any particular ill-will to Sherwood, he was here for a short time, gave us some great memories and obviously cared. He has spoken well of the fans as well as the club since he left - he didn't need to do that whether you are cynical enough to believe that the world of football is ruled by confidentiality clauses or not. It's highly probable that we would have more points if he had stayed, because 12 in 18 matches isn't a hard record to beat, but we would still be going down.

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6287 on: March 05, 2016, 10:57:18 AM »
That's not luck, it's poor finishing.

Offline brian green

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6288 on: March 05, 2016, 11:03:39 AM »
Sherwood presented every shortcoming as though none of it had anything to do with him.

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6289 on: March 05, 2016, 11:42:10 AM »
That's not luck, it's poor finishing.

But you are or were constantly the most optimistic and enthusiastic before and after games on here on how close we were and at how shite or jammy the opposition were.

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6290 on: March 05, 2016, 11:56:19 AM »
Being optimistic doesn't mean I ascribe malice or intent to a make believe force.

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6291 on: March 05, 2016, 11:57:20 AM »
It's easy forget the baffling decisions Sherwood was making at the start of the seasons. I have never felt so strongly that the manager alone was responsible for a defeat quite like I did after Leicester away. Stoke, West Brom, Swansea. All strange games, where we were playing ok in spells against other struggling sides, but all lost to odd decisions, mistakes and game management. However, his admission that the players were unfit (something that was plain to see anyway) was the biggest problem of all. He hadn't performed one of the most important duties of any manager over pre-season.

I don't have any particular ill-will to Sherwood, he was here for a short time, gave us some great memories and obviously cared. He has spoken well of the fans as well as the club since he left - he didn't need to do that whether you are cynical enough to believe that the world of football is ruled by confidentiality clauses or not. It's highly probable that we would have more points if he had stayed, because 12 in 18 matches isn't a hard record to beat, but we would still be going down.

We were second best v West Brom, that was probably the time this season when I thought relegation was going to happen on walking out at the end as we had little to worry them and a limited Pulis team had comfortably outplayed us on our own turf.

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6292 on: March 05, 2016, 04:32:09 PM »
No doubt Sherwood was struggling, but at least he got something out of the players occasionally.

As opposed to now where we get nothing from anyone.

Should have stayed until Christmas.

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6293 on: March 05, 2016, 04:59:41 PM »
Sherwood might still be here if hadn't acted like a petulant ******, playing to his mates in the media about how it wasn't his fault and how he was fucked over by the club.

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6294 on: March 05, 2016, 05:07:32 PM »
I do wonder what Sherwood was saying to them in the dressing room though which might partly explain the lack of direction on the pitch.

Couple of weeks ago he was on MOTD and they asked him whether Newcastle would say up. His answer was "yes, 100%" He didn't even study them failing to sign a single defender. It seemed to be just on the basis they'd signed Townsend (who in Sherwood's mind seems to be the second coming of Ronaldo) and Shelvey who's a decent player but was playing every week when Swansea weren't winning for months on end.

That leads me to think our analysis and preparation for opposition wasn't as good as it could be. Certainly when you look at how we played at Southampton away there were things missing given how easy they were cutting through the defence.

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6295 on: March 05, 2016, 05:09:22 PM »
No doubt Sherwood was struggling, but at least he got something out of the players occasionally.

As opposed to now where we get nothing from anyone.

Should have stayed until Christmas.

Those players he got something out of included Benteke, Delph and Vlaar.  Infinitely better ability then those currently playing. Sherwood was a bit shown up when they went.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6296 on: March 05, 2016, 05:42:57 PM »
of course it could have been very different for him and for the season generally had we actually won at Leicester

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6297 on: March 05, 2016, 05:46:48 PM »
No doubt Sherwood was struggling, but at least he got something out of the players occasionally.

As opposed to now where we get nothing from anyone.

Should have stayed until Christmas.

Those players he got something out of included Benteke, Delph and Vlaar.  Infinitely better ability then those currently playing. Sherwood was a bit shown up when they went.

Selling your best players will always cause problems though. Especially when you know you won't be able to replace them with players as good.

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6298 on: March 05, 2016, 05:49:29 PM »
Sherwood might still be here if hadn't acted like a petulant c***, playing to his mates in the media about how it wasn't his fault and how he was fucked over by the club.

There should be no revisionism regarding Sherwood.  Apart from a few weeks last season, he was awful. 

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6299 on: March 05, 2016, 05:56:56 PM »
People seem to only remember rabble rousing Sherwood and not that he was a pale shadow of that bloke in his last few weeks here.
In fact, he was pretty much flattened from Leicester onwards. What do people think would have happened for him to turn back into the bloke that took us to Wembley, and stop being the one that he started to turn into after Southampton.

 


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