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Author Topic: It's not Sherwood!  (Read 729222 times)

Malandro

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6030 on: October 26, 2015, 09:36:13 PM »

I don't feel any sympathy for him whatsoever.
Wow. Tough crowd. So you don't see a wider problem ?

Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't you spent the last month or so slating Sherwood?

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6031 on: October 26, 2015, 09:37:07 PM »

I don't feel any sympathy for him whatsoever.
Wow. Tough crowd. So you don't see a wider problem ?

Hang on a sec. Coming from you, the merchant of doom and made up stuff about how shit everything is? Seriously?
Made up stuff ? Say more

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6032 on: October 26, 2015, 09:43:04 PM »
I never disliked him like others on here, but he was out of his depth in the end that was clear

I will remember him for two things,
he kept us up and got us scoring again, and that was a minor miracle in itself as the football we were playing under Lambert was as bad as anything I can remember,

and the semi final was one if not the greatest days I've had supporting Villa in donkey's years, went down with my eldest son and will remember it forever

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6033 on: October 26, 2015, 09:44:08 PM »

I don't feel any sympathy for him whatsoever.
Wow. Tough crowd. So you don't see a wider problem ?

Hang on a sec. Coming from you, the merchant of doom and made up stuff about how shit everything is? Seriously?
Made up stuff ? Say more

Off the top of my head the most recent ludicrous bit of nonsense about us begging Sherwood to join us. Remember when you were so certain I am always slagging off Man United fans and yet you couldn't find a single post as evidence?

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6034 on: October 26, 2015, 09:48:09 PM »
I never disliked him like others on here, but he was out of his depth in the end that was clear

I will remember him for two things,
he kept us up and got us scoring again, and that was a minor miracle in itself as the football we were playing under Lambert was as bad as anything I can remember,

and the semi final was one if not the greatest days I've had supporting Villa in donkey's years, went down with my eldest son and will remember it forever
That's a fairer summation .

Offline puppyfeat

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6035 on: October 26, 2015, 09:50:16 PM »
They just sound like words cobbled together by his solicitor whilst negotiating his pay off. If it was Sherwood that wrote it Tim Sherwood would refer to Tim Sherwood in the third person.

I don't feel any sympathy for him whatsoever.
Me either. All things considered Timmy's come out of his time with Villa pretty well as I see it. He knew the situation he was getting into, but he can boast about saving Villa from certain relegation and reaching a Cup final in some style, and the next time he's up for a job, he can justifiably point to having his best players sold and then replaced by a bunch of players he'd never heard of. And on top of that he walks away £2m better off - not bad in just 8 months!

It's the fans that deserve sympathy, not him or anyone else involved with the club.

Malandro

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6036 on: October 26, 2015, 09:50:32 PM »
Just read a random twitter post by a west ham fan and he mentions us selling Delph and Benteke, he said it makes him more appreciative of their owners.

Ha, you wait buddy.

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6037 on: October 26, 2015, 10:08:53 PM »
I never disliked him like others on here, but he was out of his depth in the end that was clear

I will remember him for two things,
he kept us up and got us scoring again, and that was a minor miracle in itself as the football we were playing under Lambert was as bad as anything I can remember,

and the semi final was one if not the greatest days I've had supporting Villa in donkey's years, went down with my eldest son and will remember it forever
That's a fairer summation .

Up until the end of last season.

This season he's been a disgrace since the Leicester game.

At no point did he stop to think that it might have been his tactics repeatedly putting players in situations where cockups were likely to be costly. They will all make mistakes, it's just a question of how exposed they leave you.

At no point did he stop and think about his tactics and formations causing a good chunk of our problems. Gestede and no one to cross the ball? Emptying the midfield against teams noted for their ball possession and pass and move philosophies? You could almost be persuaded that he was trying to get sacked in the end.

At no point did he stop to think that hanging his players out to dry week after week might be having a detrimental effect on confidence.

At no point did he stop and think that this was actually about the club and the players, not about him.

At no point did he stop and think that his utterances about transfer policy over the last 3 or 4 weeks was completely at odds with what he'd said over the summer, so at one of those points he was lying.

At no point did he stop and think that essentially admitting in press conferences that he didn't know what he was doing might not be the smartest move.

Basically at no point did he stop and think.

I don't wish him ill, but I certainly don't wish him well.
Relief that he's gone and total ambivalence to his future are about as much as I can manage.
Unless he's got  a well hidden drink/drugs/gambling problem he's not going to starve or end up homeless.
Even if he never works again he can see out his days in a level of comfort 90% of the UK population can only dream about.
The only injury done (other than to our reputation and survival chances) is to his ego, which quite possibly would be doing him a service.

« Last Edit: October 26, 2015, 10:10:57 PM by Villa in Denmark »

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6038 on: October 26, 2015, 10:23:03 PM »
Must admit I really wanted him to turn it around but I cannot argue with a single word of that VID

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6039 on: October 26, 2015, 10:51:26 PM »

I don't feel any sympathy for him whatsoever.
Wow. Tough crowd. So you don't see a wider problem ?

Hang on a sec. Coming from you, the merchant of doom and made up stuff about how shit everything is? Seriously?
Made up stuff ? Say more

Off the top of my head the most recent ludicrous bit of nonsense about us begging Sherwood to join us. Remember when you were so certain I am always slagging off Man United fans and yet you couldn't find a single post as evidence?

Are you going to do your usual trick of ignoring any response that kind of proves what a bullshitter you are?

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6040 on: October 26, 2015, 11:31:43 PM »
Sherwood reminded me of a younger MON, a motivator with little or no tactical ability. MON really got found out at Sunderland and the same will happen to Sherwood wherever he ends up. Last season he did well to keep us up and with a new squad there was hope we would improve but he has been found out and for me we should have sacked him a month ago.

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6041 on: October 26, 2015, 11:32:28 PM »
Just read a random twitter post by a west ham fan and he mentions us selling Delph and Benteke, he said it makes him more appreciative of their owners.

Ha, you wait buddy.

I work with a West Ham fan. It has been a tough season talking with him so far. One thing he mentioned today that gave me pause though was he said it was a shame we missed out on Big Sam because he would have kept us up. To which I responded, "I would sooner go down than watch my club play that kind of crap." He paused, got a sad look in his eye and said "no, you dont, trust me, we have been down recently, its far better to play horrible football and stay up, it really is."

gave me pause I have to say.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6042 on: October 27, 2015, 01:08:47 AM »
I have always supported Villa managers and I am probably one of the last to give up on them (along with Chris Smith). Although new managers have not been my favoured choice, I give them a chance and judge them on performance alone. I did not get upset with GED's comments at Liverpool or Wilkins at Chelsea. It did not undermine the club or players' confidence so why get upset.

I do not go in for abusive comments about the manager as I do believe they try their best. If they're not good enough, they cannot do much about that. Having said that, I have had the uneasy feeling about Sherwood recently and I do not know whether he cracked up or he was purposely becoming disruptive.

Sherwood turned us around last season and his enthusiasm worked in the short term but this can only take you so far. I thought at the end of the season he had a plan for a clear out but it turned out to be mostly just words. He didn't look to have a plan of how to rebuild the squad as there are still glaring weaknesses.

All the talk of Lennon and Townsend but don't they play similar positions, so why would you go after both. A good manager will firstly improve the weaknesses but Sherwood never seemed to be thinking along the same lines.

The only thing that I do wonder about is the lack of transfer activity before Benteke and Delph went. It was clear that Benteke was going very early one but we didn't appear to have a plan in place. Was this down to Sherwood or the club.

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6043 on: October 27, 2015, 05:26:26 AM »
Was quite excited when he came in, because he was the exact opposite of the man he replaced Lambert, but we really do have to watch what we wish for.
Him being the exact opposite of Lambert was probably one of his major downfalls in that, he always had a sound bite, he had a get up and get at them attitude (at first )and I believe he then found himself floundering when he made mistakes and did not not know how to handle that and as we had been warned turned on anyone apart from himself.

I still do not believe he was not told at the time of taking the job what the clubs transfer policy was and how those transfers would be assessed, do not for one second believe that he did not expect to lose Benteke, we all knew he was off barring injury last August 2014.

TC was never ours to keep, Vlarr again no one expected him to still be here come August 2015, the one he had probably not been expecting was the snake. But was the snake that pivotal to us, we had managed for long periods of time when he was constantly injured, not denying we were better when he was in the team, also most of these players were all in the team at Wembley, that he stated afterwards he was going to rip up and build again because it was full of people with a losing mentality.
Thanks for keeping us up and a good day out at Wembley at least before a ball was kicked that is, but learn from your lessons Tim, the press might be your mates, but it is the club that your working for that pays your wages.



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Re: It's not Sherwood!
« Reply #6044 on: October 27, 2015, 06:56:03 AM »
 we're still paying them

 


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