It's not Sherwood!

[OCD]

Good headline for the Yorke story too at the bottom of that link.

[frank]

Bang on, as usual

well worth reading

[Monty]

Bang on, as usual

well worth reading

It's also interesting how someone like Sherwood is a 'proper' football man and Garde isn't, even though Garde has barely been out of the game coaching young players, old players, the whole system at Lyon before finally taking on the big job and doing pretty damn well - whereas Sherwood tried to flog overpriced watches to his former teammates before 'Arry gave him something to do, namely badmouth AVB (fruity foreigner) to all corners of the media and blag his way to a job he was in no way qualified for. Yeah. That's a 'proper' football man.

[paul_e]

That article sums up why I find the whole 'we need a villa man' thing utterly moronic.  It gets thrown out there all the time but no one can explain what it actually means or how it helps.  It's also why I don't think Moyes is the right choice because regardless of his record we'd be appointing him because he's British and has managed in the league before rather than because he's suitable of the job.

[Toronto Villa]

Bang on, as usual

well worth reading

It's also interesting how someone like Sherwood is a 'proper' football man and Garde isn't, even though Garde has barely been out of the game coaching young players, old players, the whole system at Lyon before finally taking on the big job and doing pretty damn well - whereas Sherwood tried to flog overpriced watches to his former teammates before 'Arry gave him something to do, namely badmouth AVB (fruity foreigner) to all corners of the media and blag his way to a job he was in no way qualified for. Yeah. That's a 'proper' football man.

and for me Wenger is a proper football man because he teaches the game properly, as it is meant to be played. And has been doing so for 20 odd years, or whatever it has been and mostly very successfully. That's the kind of football man I want at Villa, and if Garde is any way cut from that cloth then he'll be a very welcome addition to the club.

[not3bad]

Wouldn't "It Was Sherwood (But Not Any More)" be more appropriate?

[rob_bridge]

Bang on, as usual

well worth reading

It's also interesting how someone like Sherwood is a 'proper' football man and Garde isn't, even though Garde has barely been out of the game coaching young players, old players, the whole system at Lyon before finally taking on the big job and doing pretty damn well - whereas Sherwood tried to flog overpriced watches to his former teammates before 'Arry gave him something to do, namely badmouth AVB (fruity foreigner) to all corners of the media and blag his way to a job he was in no way qualified for. Yeah. That's a 'proper' football man.

Beggars belief. Proper Football Man means media friendly quipper and part of the jobs for the boys brigade. Preferably one that is suited by Harry Redcrap

[Toronto Villa]

I'm sure the clique are gutted the likes of Stuart Pearce is out of work. Now there's a proper football man. If a managerial appointment could be made worse than Sherwood, that would probably be it.

[Duncan Shaw]

Bang on, as usual

well worth reading

Great last sentence...........

"Sherwood did a poor job, not because he’s British, not because of foreign owners, not because of foreign players, but primarily because he’s Sherwood, and, let us never forget, Sherwood is a proper football man"

[PaulWinch again]

That article sums up why I find the whole 'we need a villa man' thing utterly moronic.  It gets thrown out there all the time but no one can explain what it actually means or how it helps.  It's also why I don't think Moyes is the right choice because regardless of his record we'd be appointing him because he's British and has managed in the league before rather than because he's suitable of the job.

Yep it's utter nonsense. I'd rather have someone who has a fucking clue what they're doing.

[Chris Smith]

I agree with pretty much all of that article, nationality is irrelevant. However, we are in a precarious position whereby whoever comes in is going to have to hit the ground running. Some experience of this league, which to be fair Garde has, is surely an advantage. Taking over a stable mid-table club is clearly a different proposition to one that has been struggling for 5 years and are bottom of the league.

I must admit I am warming to the idea but we have made so many blunders in recent years that I cannot feel any real confidence that this time it will be different.

[ozzjim]

I know the feeling Chris. It looks like a good idea, it fits well, but then something just tells me we will be here in 6 months looking back saying we should have gone all in on Moyes.

[Tony Erdington]

I know the feeling Chris. It looks like a good idea, it fits well, but then something just tells me we will be here in 6 months looking back saying we should have gone all in on Moyes.

Amen

[rob_bridge]

That article sums up why I find the whole 'we need a villa man' thing utterly moronic.  It gets thrown out there all the time but no one can explain what it actually means or how it helps.  It's also why I don't think Moyes is the right choice because regardless of his record we'd be appointing him because he's British and has managed in the league before rather than because he's suitable of the job.

Have to agree. Don;t get me wrong I loved it that in 90's we had 3 successive 'Villa Men' (if you were to include BFR) who all did to an extent well but it is of little relevance nowadays.

As Mr Woodhall and others have stated many times neither Ron Saunders or Graham Taylor had Villa in their DNA but they were perfect fits for us.

[paul_e]

but what is relevant experience in the premier league?  For example if Mourinho got sacked this afternoon and called Fox to apply for the job would his experience at the top of the premier league make him more or less suited to a relegation battle than someone who's been fighting relegation in Germany, for example?  Can you say without doubt that it would be more because if you can't then the myth of premier league experience is largely laid bare.