It's not Sherwood!

[Toronto Villa]

He's got an ability to talk things up when needed yet he keeps banging on about his remit being just stay in the league. If he was smart he'd never mention that at all and spin it completely differently. Like the goal is finish as high as possible or get into Europe. Yet since things started to go a little wrong he's come out with negative statements about just surviving. Who on earth wants to hear that? That's fine if that was set as an internal goal, but I don't recall any other manager openly admitting that as an aim. It's happening with Sherwood and prior to that with Lambert.

[KRS]

I think those comments would be classed as "lowering fans expectations" particularly for this season.

[conman]

He's got an ability to talk things up when needed yet he keeps banging on about his remit being just stay in the league. If he was smart he'd never mention that at all and spin it completely differently. Like the goal is finish as high as possible or get into Europe. Yet since things started to go a little wrong he's come out with negative statements about just surviving. Who on earth wants to hear that? That's fine if that was set as an internal goal, but I don't recall any other manager openly admitting that as an aim. It's happening with Sherwood and prior to that with Lambert.

well until mr lerner has departed aiming to avoid relegation is about  the best we can hope for
and unless there is a dramatic improvement in form and results this season
this may well be the year that we dont do it

[PaulWinch again]

I think Sutton comments about Gestede are off, 'Like Benteke, Rudy Gestede has tremendous physical attributes and is as good as there is in the air in the Premier League'. I'm not sure he is. He's excellent at one specific aerial attribute, and that's headers from whipped crosses, but he's too slow to use his physical presence anywhere else. He's also pretty poor in the air when the ball is kicked up to him.

[Toronto Villa]

He's got an ability to talk things up when needed yet he keeps banging on about his remit being just stay in the league. If he was smart he'd never mention that at all and spin it completely differently. Like the goal is finish as high as possible or get into Europe. Yet since things started to go a little wrong he's come out with negative statements about just surviving. Who on earth wants to hear that? That's fine if that was set as an internal goal, but I don't recall any other manager openly admitting that as an aim. It's happening with Sherwood and prior to that with Lambert.

well until mr lerner has departed aiming to avoid relegation is about  the best we can hope for
and unless there is a dramatic improvement in form and results this season
this may well be the year that we dont do it

That'a not the point. Even if internally the club sets certain goals, publicly those goals don't always need to be communicated. Sherwood may very well have been set that objective but in order to boost supporter morale and player confidence there is nothing wrong with him having his own loftier goals for the club. Nobody wants to hear that our only goal is stay up.

[PaulWinch again]

He's got an ability to talk things up when needed yet he keeps banging on about his remit being just stay in the league. If he was smart he'd never mention that at all and spin it completely differently. Like the goal is finish as high as possible or get into Europe. Yet since things started to go a little wrong he's come out with negative statements about just surviving. Who on earth wants to hear that? That's fine if that was set as an internal goal, but I don't recall any other manager openly admitting that as an aim. It's happening with Sherwood and prior to that with Lambert.

well until mr lerner has departed aiming to avoid relegation is about  the best we can hope for
and unless there is a dramatic improvement in form and results this season
this may well be the year that we dont do it

That'a not the point. Even if internally the club sets certain goals, publicly those goals don't always need to be communicated. Sherwood may very well have been set that objective but in order to boost supporter morale and player confidence there is nothing wrong with him having his own loftier goals for the club. Nobody wants to hear that our only goal is stay up.

Yep especially when only a couple of months ago the same person who's peddling that message was saying there was no chance we'd be involved in a relegation battle this year.

[Vegas]

He's got an ability to talk things up when needed yet he keeps banging on about his remit being just stay in the league. If he was smart he'd never mention that at all and spin it completely differently. Like the goal is finish as high as possible or get into Europe. Yet since things started to go a little wrong he's come out with negative statements about just surviving. Who on earth wants to hear that? That's fine if that was set as an internal goal, but I don't recall any other manager openly admitting that as an aim. It's happening with Sherwood and prior to that with Lambert.

well until mr lerner has departed aiming to avoid relegation is about  the best we can hope for
and unless there is a dramatic improvement in form and results this season
this may well be the year that we dont do it

That'a not the point. Even if internally the club sets certain goals, publicly those goals don't always need to be communicated. Sherwood may very well have been set that objective but in order to boost supporter morale and player confidence there is nothing wrong with him having his own loftier goals for the club. Nobody wants to hear that our only goal is stay up.

That's unrealistic though. All managers downplay expectations. He wouldn't do himself any favours saying publicly "we'll finish top 8", or whatever, then struggling. It's also pretty obvious that we've been investing just enough to stay up for several seasons - nobody wants to hear it, but the problem is that it is true.

[Toronto Villa]

He's got an ability to talk things up when needed yet he keeps banging on about his remit being just stay in the league. If he was smart he'd never mention that at all and spin it completely differently. Like the goal is finish as high as possible or get into Europe. Yet since things started to go a little wrong he's come out with negative statements about just surviving. Who on earth wants to hear that? That's fine if that was set as an internal goal, but I don't recall any other manager openly admitting that as an aim. It's happening with Sherwood and prior to that with Lambert.

well until mr lerner has departed aiming to avoid relegation is about  the best we can hope for
and unless there is a dramatic improvement in form and results this season
this may well be the year that we dont do it

That'a not the point. Even if internally the club sets certain goals, publicly those goals don't always need to be communicated. Sherwood may very well have been set that objective but in order to boost supporter morale and player confidence there is nothing wrong with him having his own loftier goals for the club. Nobody wants to hear that our only goal is stay up.

That's unrealistic though. All managers downplay expectations. He wouldn't do himself any favours saying publicly "we'll finish top 8", or whatever, then struggling. It's also pretty obvious that we've been investing just enough to stay up for several seasons - nobody wants to hear it, but the problem is that it is true.

so he should have said we are going to get relegated? How much downplaying can you do from a remit of just staying up?

[paul_e]

He's got an ability to talk things up when needed yet he keeps banging on about his remit being just stay in the league. If he was smart he'd never mention that at all and spin it completely differently. Like the goal is finish as high as possible or get into Europe. Yet since things started to go a little wrong he's come out with negative statements about just surviving. Who on earth wants to hear that? That's fine if that was set as an internal goal, but I don't recall any other manager openly admitting that as an aim. It's happening with Sherwood and prior to that with Lambert.

well until mr lerner has departed aiming to avoid relegation is about  the best we can hope for
and unless there is a dramatic improvement in form and results this season
this may well be the year that we dont do it

That'a not the point. Even if internally the club sets certain goals, publicly those goals don't always need to be communicated. Sherwood may very well have been set that objective but in order to boost supporter morale and player confidence there is nothing wrong with him having his own loftier goals for the club. Nobody wants to hear that our only goal is stay up.

That's unrealistic though. All managers downplay expectations. He wouldn't do himself any favours saying publicly "we'll finish top 8", or whatever, then struggling. It's also pretty obvious that we've been investing just enough to stay up for several seasons - nobody wants to hear it, but the problem is that it is true.

But that's not what happened, he made it very clear that the club wouldn't be involved in a relegation battle again, that's an expectation that he himself set.  To now suggest that his only goal is to avoid relegation is a huge u-turn and he has no one but himself to blame if it backfires on him.

[Des Little]

Sherwood is a bullshitter and a chancer.  No one should believe a single word the man says - he's proved time and again that his every move is based on chance and the hope that something works for him.  He's a gambler who got lucky early on but now his bets are all losing and he's in above his head.  Any positive results that we get under his management here will be due to the luck being with us rather than against.

[pauliewalnuts]

"My objective this season is to stay in the Premier League and I have full 100% belief that we will do that."

I hope that isn't his "objective". That should be the absolute minimum and go without saying/

[CT]

"My objective this season is to stay in the Premier League and I have full 100% belief that we will do that."

I hope that isn't his "objective". That should be the absolute minimum and go without saying/

Yep, I thought exactly the same when I saw that.

[rob_bridge]

Pat Murphy has made him look like a right fucking Thick Bastard.

[olaftab]

Pat Murphy has made him look like a right fucking Thick Bastard.

That's because he is a RFTB!

[themossman]

"My objective this season is to stay in the Premier League and I have full 100% belief that we will do that."

I hope that isn't his "objective". That should be the absolute minimum and go without saying/

'Stretch target'.