It's not Sherwood!

[Vegas]

Give the man a chance. He kept us up, took us to the cup final, overhauled the squad but lost his best payers. Obviously we've got pretty much a new team this season.

I thought this season would start poorly and slowly get better given the above, and it definitely has started pretty poorly.  Yet we're only 7 games in, and to me we need to give a new and relatively inexperienced manager with a totally overhauled squad many more games than that, particularly after the goodwill he should have earned last season.

He hasn't found his best team yet, but there's potential there and we're in the last 16 of the league cup - it's by no means a write off yet, and I think he will deserve massive credit for anything better than a write off this year given what he inherited.

The main reasons for the more hysterical elements on here wanting to get rid so soon seem to be that he's a 'cockney chancer' and more importantly that he's tactically suspect.  The first is hardly worth addressing except to say surely it's irrelevant (and actually would be illegal if he were from a different country not a different city).  The second - yes some of his subs have been poor choices, and we have looked bereft of ideas in some games, but I'm not sure I've seen proof that this is an I fixable weakness yet, and my view is let him have a good few months with wholehearted support while he tries to find the right team and approach from this new young squad we've got.

[JUAN PABLO]

I must admit , we do score some cracking goals .

We potentially have a good team here and some of the players really excite me . He just needs to sort these bizarre player selections , tactics and crazy substitutions out very quickly .  I have no idea what he playing at sometimes . I really hope he gets some more  points on board quick .

[OCD]

My guess is that those who voted to get rid would drop very quickly if he started showing some tactical aptitude and was quicker to hold his hands up when it's the way he's set the side up that was wrong. Even in his comments on the OS this morning, he still takes no share of the fault.

My attitude changed very quickly on Saturday because he basically set us up as Lambert would have done and never did anything to correct the mistake despite countless opportunities.

[Vegas]

Agreed OCD, but in my opinion there is and should be a massive difference between disagreeing with some of his decisions and advocating sacking him. He's 7 games in to the season, with a new squad. We have been crap in some/most games, and some of his tactics and substitutions have been strange and even downright wrong.  I hope he learns from them, and improves. And like all of us of course I'd love to see us playing the free flowing attacking football that we have shown glimpses of this season and last, more often. 

But sack him, after what he got us out of last season and what he's done over the summer?? I honestly don't get it at all.

[mr underhill]

would you still fell the same way if we only get a point or two out of the next half dozen games?

[mr underhill]

sorry, feel the same way

[Vegas]

If we get 1-2 points from the next 6 games I would consider the case for sacking him stronger, yes.   Even then I probably wouldn't do it myself  (I'd give it until Christmas / Jan) but I would think it was a more reasonable view to hold.

[brian green]

Depends how the games go. If we lose games as a result of mule headed obstinacy like Leicester I would ease my defence of him. If we lose narrowly to top teams after playing well it should be to his credit. My view of Sherwood is that he has some qualities and some weaknesses. His predecessors in my eyes had no saving graces whatsoever. All I ask is for evidence that behind the cockiness he actually is learning from his mistakes.

[mr underhill]

couldn't agree more Brian; I'm certainly not advocating his sacking now, but irrespective of the reasons, if we are where we are now on boxing Day, I think I would feel differently

[dave.woodhall]

couldn't agree more Brian; I'm certainly not advocating his sacking now, but irrespective of the reasons, if we are where we are now on boxing Day, I think I would feel differently

My feelings entirely.

[Toronto Villa]

My guess is that those who voted to get rid would drop very quickly if he started showing some tactical aptitude and was quicker to hold his hands up when it's the way he's set the side up that was wrong. Even in his comments on the OS this morning, he still takes no share of the fault.

My attitude changed very quickly on Saturday because he basically set us up as Lambert would have done and never did anything to correct the mistake despite countless opportunities.

My position entirely.

[tomd2103]

couldn't agree more Brian; I'm certainly not advocating his sacking now, but irrespective of the reasons, if we are where we are now on boxing Day, I think I would feel differently

I think Boxing Day might be a little late if we are still in tghe predicament we now find ourselves in.  Making a change at the start of December allows a new manager to assess what he has to work with and plan who to sign in January. 

[Tony Erdington]

Im not anti Tim, and agree we cant just have blind faith, that it will all come right, BUT I would pull the trigger earlier than the end of December , more like the beginning, as to get the next manager though the revolving door, to give him chance to assess the squad, and then make the addisions he see's fit. As to not give a manager a budget , will limit the applicants.

Or do not pull the trigger and see where Tim takes us.

[pauliewalnuts]

The main reasons for the more hysterical elements on here wanting to get rid so soon seem to be that he's a 'cockney chancer' and more importantly that he's tactically suspect.  The first is hardly worth addressing except to say surely it's irrelevant (and actually would be illegal if he were from a different country not a different city). 

I don't give one tenth of one fuck if he's from London, a cockney, from Hertfordshire, or the moon, I honestly do not give a shit.

I do, however, give a shit about the fact that he is a chancer.

One of his problems is he talks himself up so well, he talks a good game, and then when you see what he actually delivers, it fails to match up with all the talk.

That might be one thing he can learn, be more humble, don't get yourself into stupid situations like you did last week after the first half of the Blues match. Don't say after the Leicester match that it was the players' fault and that there was nothing wrong with your tactics.

In fact, don't say anything like that to the media, keep it behind closed doors.

[Toronto Villa]

The fact that he's from London doesn't matter one iota. People need to stop with all the "cockney" bollocks. Can he do the job? That's all that matters and right now he's proving he isn't up to it.