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Online KRS

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3705 on: September 14, 2015, 11:36:10 PM »
Be interested to see that analysis rather than the gormless interpretation from Yorke and Quinn...got the repeat set to record 9am tomorrow morning.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3706 on: September 14, 2015, 11:44:30 PM »
Sherwood certainly has to accept a lot of responsibility for recent dropped points. I don't think he's hiding from that. But when you look at Amavi/Guzan vs Palace, Sanchez giving the ball away vs Sunderland and then the poor individual player decisions yesterday then as a manager it must kill you inside.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3707 on: September 14, 2015, 11:44:44 PM »
Westwood is a real problem as he is contaminating that crucial area of the pitch for us. Sure he's tidy at a 7 yard nothing pass to a full back etc but what else does he do other than the square root of fuck all ?
Until we ship dross like him, Bacuna and Guzan out we are heading nowhere but the championship.

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« Reply #3708 on: September 14, 2015, 11:51:08 PM »
Carragher made some excellent points on tonight's MNF. With Leicester becoming increasingly threatening, Westwood was still legging it up the pitch leaving huge gaps behind him - and only Sanchez to make a solitary stand as Leicester broke in number when we lost possession. At one point it appeared that Lescott got hold of Westwood and said something about the void he was creating, but Westwood - presumably under instruction - still insisted on getting forward.

If Carragher can see that, and Lescott - in the heat of a game - can see it, why couldn't Sherwood?

That is even before you get as far as substitutions.

Or perhaps Westwood lacks discipline in his game to hold his position and listen to his experienced defenders.  No wonder Sanchez was knackered covering so much space.  Organisation on the pitch during play is down to the captain and the experienced players.  Overall game plan is down to the manager.  I should imagine that Sherwood has been on at Westwood to get forward more this season but does the player know when to do it and understand that if he does he has to get back.  I don't believe Westwood has the stamina to get up and down the pitch.

Sherwood has to have the confidence to bring Veretout into the team and allow him to grow into the team.  I still think Grealish and Gill playing together leaves us too open.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3709 on: September 15, 2015, 12:03:00 AM »
Carragher made some excellent points on tonight's MNF. With Leicester becoming increasingly threatening, Westwood was still legging it up the pitch leaving huge gaps behind him - and only Sanchez to make a solitary stand as Leicester broke in number when we lost possession. At one point it appeared that Lescott got hold of Westwood and said something about the void he was creating, but Westwood - presumably under instruction - still insisted on getting forward.

If Carragher can see that, and Lescott - in the heat of a game - can see it, why couldn't Sherwood?

That is even before you get as far as substitutions.

Or perhaps Westwood lacks discipline in his game to hold his position and listen to his experienced defenders.  No wonder Sanchez was knackered covering so much space.  Organisation on the pitch during play is down to the captain and the experienced players.  Overall game plan is down to the manager.  I should imagine that Sherwood has been on at Westwood to get forward more this season but does the player know when to do it and understand that if he does he has to get back.  I don't believe Westwood has the stamina to get up and down the pitch.

Sherwood has to have the confidence to bring Veretout into the team and allow him to grow into the team.  I still think Grealish and Gill playing together leaves us too open.

Could not agree more.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3710 on: September 15, 2015, 12:08:05 AM »
Apparently Dave is on Talksport in a minute? Unless it's pre recorded.  ;D

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3711 on: September 15, 2015, 12:33:18 AM »
Apparently Dave is on Talksport in a minute? Unless it's pre recorded.  ;D

In about two minutes.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3712 on: September 15, 2015, 12:45:03 AM »
Apparently Dave is on Talksport in a minute? Unless it's pre recorded.  ;D

In about two minutes.

Decent listen, spoke well.  :D

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3713 on: September 15, 2015, 12:45:06 AM »
Amazed you actually managed to get a word in with that pair of gobshites.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3714 on: September 15, 2015, 12:45:32 AM »
Amazed you actually managed to get a word in with that pair of gobshites.

Takes one to beat one, or rather two.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3715 on: September 15, 2015, 01:02:35 AM »
Don't think they expected a quote from Queen Victoria.
Apposite, though!

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3716 on: September 15, 2015, 01:10:11 AM »
Carragher made some excellent points on tonight's MNF. With Leicester becoming increasingly threatening, Westwood was still legging it up the pitch leaving huge gaps behind him - and only Sanchez to make a solitary stand as Leicester broke in number when we lost possession. At one point it appeared that Lescott got hold of Westwood and said something about the void he was creating, but Westwood - presumably under instruction - still insisted on getting forward.

If Carragher can see that, and Lescott - in the heat of a game - can see it, why couldn't Sherwood?

That is even before you get as far as substitutions.

Or perhaps Westwood lacks discipline in his game to hold his position and listen to his experienced defenders.  No wonder Sanchez was knackered covering so much space.  Organisation on the pitch during play is down to the captain and the experienced players.  Overall game plan is down to the manager.  I should imagine that Sherwood has been on at Westwood to get forward more this season but does the player know when to do it and understand that if he does he has to get back.  I don't believe Westwood has the stamina to get up and down the pitch.

Sherwood has to have the confidence to bring Veretout into the team and allow him to grow into the team.  I still think Grealish and Gill playing together leaves us too open.

Disagree on Gil and Grealish, but it has to be a 60-70 minute thing then bring one off and stiffen the side. It is pretty basic stuff that we can all see. We have a decent side, and are playing some lovely stuff, but have to get a bit smarter. Starting with Timmy.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3717 on: September 15, 2015, 07:15:32 AM »
Westwood is a real problem as he is contaminating that crucial area of the pitch for us. Sure he's tidy at a 7 yard nothing pass to a full back etc but what else does he do other than the square root of fuck all ?
Until we ship dross like him, Bacuna and Guzan out we are heading nowhere but the championship.

Like we did last season? More melodromatic rubbish.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3718 on: September 15, 2015, 08:48:45 AM »
Nobody is "contaminating" anything. It is a game of football. The events are the events, the circumstances are the circumstances. If a player tires he tires. If a player loses concentration he loses concentration. If a player does not respond to the manager's orders he does no follow orders. Using words that imply contagion is like using a chain saw to open a gas bill.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #3719 on: September 15, 2015, 09:01:05 AM »
I just watched the BBC interview for the first time. Christ  it is worrying.

It is all very well talking about Sherwood being inexperienced and needing time. That is only true if the mistakes he made were the result of inexperience (or bad luck) and if he is prepared to accept that he made mistakes.

Neither would appear to be the case.

Thinking that a Premier League game is over at 2-0, or that being so totally overrun in midfield is anything other than a recipe for disaster are not managerial errors, they are footballing errors. Sherwood has been in football for decades, does he really know no better?

Putting on a tin hat, digging a trench and pointing the finger elsewhere does not smack of someone likely to learn from their own mistakes either. We've had a few managers do something similar and it has never ended well.

Tim Sherwood does not strike me as particularly intelligent neither in his speech or his actions. The plain fact is Leicester were attacking us with pace even before Gils' excellent goal. When he took off Gil (and I agreed with him) he should have also taken Sinclair off and flooded the midfield with Veretout and Clark .It was obvious that Sanchez and Westwood were having trouble coping with the extra fitness levels and pace of the Leicester midfield and both or even one should have been introduced. Instead he went gung ho and brought Ayew on. He could have brought Messi on and it would still have been wrong! That match showed just how much we are going to miss Gueye when he is out. He has the fitness levels skill and application required to last the full 90mins. That match showed that we cannot play two the lightweights Jack and Gil in the same team. Both very skilfull and both scored but neither are very powerful physically and you need that in this league.

Everybody seems to agree that that our fitness levels are not good enough.I would ask just what exactly are Sherwood and Wilkins doing in training that differs from what Pearson and now Ranieri have achieved with Leicester?. Are they letting the players have an easy time by being 'pally' with them?.

Tim Sherwood has certainly blotted his copybook with his actions on Sunday. People are having major doubts about his ability to manage.
He needs to improve...and fast!
« Last Edit: September 15, 2015, 09:07:09 AM by Ron Manager »

 


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