It's not Sherwood!

[Ads]

I'm not being disingenuous at all, I simply guessed that he had 13 games at it as I couldn't recall the total number.

Anybody who was at Hull would have left that ground with an almost religious certainty that we'd be relegated, that he kept us up was a huge success.

[Chris Smith]

There seems to be the usual rush to pass judgement going on. Any side trying to integrate so many players who are all new to the league would have problems. Added to that we have important injuries to compound the situation. Ask again at Christmas and we might have enough evidence to have an informed opinion.

[passport1]

I just view him as a younger version of 'Arry Rednap. A bit of a media monkey and his transfer window dealings have Harry written all over them.

He was even sat chatting to Jamie before kick off last night.

[Clampy]

I just view him as a younger version of 'Arry Rednap. A bit of a media monkey and his transfer window dealings have Harry written all over them.

He was even sat chatting to Jamie before kick off last night.

So we didn't need new players in then?

[aj2k77]

I just view him as a younger version of 'Arry Rednap. A bit of a media monkey and his transfer window dealings have Harry written all over them.

He was even sat chatting to Jamie before kick off last night.

How are his transfers anything like Harry's?

Tells the press all his business? He's barely talked about any of our dealings.
Signed a load of players he's previously failed with? Nope, players we've never heard of mostly.
Overpriced, old, English league players? Nope, trawled French football for young players instead.

Apart from being a good interview and a bit of cheeky chap persona I don't see any resemblance with Harry.

To be fair to Redknapp too, for all the highly rated managers they've had before and since, for all the money they've spent, he's the only one to get them in to the top 4 in god knows how long. He did a good job at Spurs.

[brontebilly]

For all the excellent signings we have made I am a little concerned about the way we line up tactically, not just last night but at the end of last season.

Last night's line up was very samey, you have to find a way of getting your dangerous players in the game. Veretout out on the right and a frontline of 3 extremely similar players in Gabby, Ayew and Sinclair was never going to be well balanced in my opinion. But he certainly deserves time to prove he can get the team playing effectively.

Guardian article this morning this morning from the zonal marking dude was slating tactics tim. No way should Ayew and Gabby ever be the front two in a 442 again anyway. Both seem like clones of the other. Also you would have to question whether the players we have plus the recent recruits suit the type of pressing game Sherwood seems to want.

The French league is a very pedestrian league and the pace we put into the first half was always going to catch out more than a few. Sanchez and Gestede both should have been on a lot earlier.

To be fair to him, he had done the necessary gutting of the squad this summer and against Bournemouth made proactive changes that changed the game.

The nagging worry re his tactical acumen isn't going away though.

[brian green]

I agree with ads, anybody who went to the Hull game last season would have left as we did, certain that not only would we be relegated but that we would finish rock bottom of the table. What Tim Sherwood deserves is our heartfelt thanks not forensic not picking based on the cockney stereotyping.

[Ger Regan]

I agree with ads, anybody who went to the Hull game last season would have left as we did, certain that not only would we be relegated but that we would finish rock bottom of the table. What Tim Sherwood deserves is our heartfelt thanks not forensic not picking based on the cockney stereotyping.

He deserves thanks for last season, but he also should be subjected to legitimate scrutiny where necessary, and there are definitely aspects of his managerial abilities that need to be addressed if we are to be more than a team that just happens to avoid relegation year on year. That said, completely dismissing him as a redknapp type figure isn't right either.

[PaulWinch again]

I agree with ads, anybody who went to the Hull game last season would have left as we did, certain that not only would we be relegated but that we would finish rock bottom of the table. What Tim Sherwood deserves is our heartfelt thanks not forensic not picking based on the cockney stereotyping.

He deserves thanks for last season, but he also should be subjected to legitimate scrutiny where necessary, and there are definitely aspects of his managerial abilities that need to be addressed if we are to be more than a team that just happens to avoid relegation year on year. That said, completely dismissing him as a redknapp type figure isn't right either.

Maybe, but at the same time passing judgement on his abilities so far this season when he's got 10 new players to gel
into a team is a bit harsh. He has overhauled the squad, which was completely necessary and we've won one and lost a close game to Man Utd. He's not doing too badly.

[Ger Regan]

I agree with ads, anybody who went to the Hull game last season would have left as we did, certain that not only would we be relegated but that we would finish rock bottom of the table. What Tim Sherwood deserves is our heartfelt thanks not forensic not picking based on the cockney stereotyping.

He deserves thanks for last season, but he also should be subjected to legitimate scrutiny where necessary, and there are definitely aspects of his managerial abilities that need to be addressed if we are to be more than a team that just happens to avoid relegation year on year. That said, completely dismissing him as a redknapp type figure isn't right either.

Maybe, but at the same time passing judgement on his abilities so far this season when he's got 10 new players to gel
into a team is a bit harsh. He has overhauled the squad, which was completely necessary and we've won one and lost a close game to Man Utd. He's not doing too badly.

The thing is, I'm seeing the same limitations from sherwood as I did last season, a complete inability (or unwillingness?) to change things mid-game. When he gets the tactics right, it can often work out well, but when he doesn't we're left floundering somewhat, and I really don't think that's got anything to do with bedding in the new players.

[ozzjim]

There seems to be the usual rush to pass judgement going on. Any side trying to integrate so many players who are all new to the league would have problems. Added to that we have important injuries to compound the situation. Ask again at Christmas and we might have enough evidence to have an informed opinion.

Incredible really isn't it. He has had no option but to start the forwards he has done so far considering fitness issues and that Traore only arrived yesterday. With all the will in the world, Sinclair, Gabby and Ayew are never going to be the most creative 3, they all seem keen to run onto a ball and play off the shoulder which United nullified by simply sitting deep. We have not had the luxury of Gil or Grealish in the side yet, Gestede Shwerwood clearly stated was not fit enough to start and Kozak was out for 18 months before this summer. The press in their articles about Traore seemed to indicate that he wants another forward option too before the window shuts, so until the end of September, I find it very difficult to draw any conclusions on this side. Last night seemed as much about fitness and getting to know each other as the result. I accept this should be done pre season, but our side needed huge surgery, has had it, and now needs the finishing touches and to be given time to get better. Some comment, and not necessarily on here about Sherwood and the team last night would have been food and drink for O'leary and his fickle persuasions.

[LeeB]

I think the tactics thing is massively overplayed.

The margins for deploying effective tactics are miles smaller for Tim than they were for almost anyone else in the league, as he had shite players to carry them out,  who were totally bereft of confidence.

[LeeB]

Also, to follow on from Ads and Brian, the question we had coming away from Hull was not if we go down, but when.

[KRS]

Despite all the transfer activity, TS is still very restricted in his team selection and tactics simply because of player availability due to fitness and injuries. The new players need time to gel, improve their fitness/stamina and adjust to the pace of the PL, with the addition of our creative attacking players returning from injury. He needs at least 2 months before we can start to see his vision of this squad on the pitch. Patience is a virtue and very much needed at the moment...even if the PL doesn't give us the blessing of time.

[OCD]

Even 2 months is nothing. The whole year will be a transition but should be a damn sight better than the last 4. Next season, everyone will have had a year of Premier League experience, player development and training at a high intensity and some precision based transfer activity to progress us.