It's not Sherwood!

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We're not finished at all, unless we keep repeating and reinforcing the same failures. As said above, the quality with some is there, bu the confidence isn't. Stopping this rot of defeats is what was needed and it still is. A point will do.

I am hopefully he doesn't suffer fools gladly and we never see the likes of Agbonlahor again.

[Rudy65]

Gil got found out a bit yesterday and was bullied off the ball a number of times, Stoke is one opposition where he should have been left on the bench.

I thought the same, but he kept coming too deep to get the ball. I guess he thinks he will never get the ball if he is too far forward as we are too inept to pass it to him further forward.

Personally i would play him in the middle with two holding midfielders behind him. He needs to be doing damage in the final third

[Monty]

Gil got found out a bit yesterday and was bullied off the ball a number of times, Stoke is one opposition where he should have been left on the bench.

I thought the same, but he kept coming too deep to get the ball. I guess he thinks he will never get the ball if he is too far forward as we are too inept to pass it to him further forward.

Personally i would play him in the middle with two holding midfielders behind him. He needs to be doing damage in the final third

Perhaps next season, but at the moment I think he's still not quite used to the physical demands of the league. I'd rather keep him wide with license to drift about than make him the number 10 outright at the moment.

[Boz]

So Sherwood thinks there are no positives from today's game - proves he hasn't seen any of our other games this season!

Until he was approached, why would he, we were hardly noted for sparkling football under Lambert?

Perhaps yesterday will focus him on some of the dross in the team and he'll look back at earlier match videos to see how poor Villa have been.

He was very frank in the interview I saw saying it was a poor quality game and seemed to realise he's a lot to do with not much time to sort out his best team and style of play.

[Holte L2]

I'd play Gil off Benteke. He's got to be more of a threat than Weimann.
There's got to be a striker available on the free transfer market that can come in and support Benteke.
We can't rely on Gabby and Weimann to score the goals to keep us up.

[claret and blue blood]

wonder if he's looking at bringing some of the loanees back to give him a few options,Bennet ,Gardner Robinson ,looking at the bench yesterday didn't inspire, maybe Lowton in a forward roll at least he can cross or some kid in the reserves with no fear,I know its desperate but needs must?

[Pete3206]

wonder if he's looking at bringing some of the loanees back to give him a few options,Bennet ,Gardner Robinson ,looking at the bench yesterday didn't inspire, maybe Lowton in a forward roll at least he can cross or some kid in the reserves with no fear,I know its desperate but needs must?

I don't believe any of those players would make any difference at all

[Flamingo Lane]

wonder if he's looking at bringing some of the loanees back to give him a few options, maybe Lowton in a forward roll

Sounds more like a backward step.

[claret and blue blood]

wonder if he's looking at bringing some of the loanees back to give him a few options,Bennet ,Gardner Robinson ,looking at the bench yesterday didn't inspire, maybe Lowton in a forward roll at least he can cross or some kid in the reserves with no fear,I know its desperate but needs must?

I don't believe any of those players would make any difference at all

I know what you mean Pete and I did say desperate,Bennett had a stormed yesterday against Blues,with an assist and Garder is getting good reviews as a holding player for Forest, Robinson got MOM for Preston including an assist for Daniel Johnson.I admit I,'m clutching at straws but with Kevin Mac back who knows them might be worth a shout.

[supertom]

Stoke are about as physical as they come in this league. They play better football under Hughes than Pulis, but they still know how to ruffle feathers. Yeah it wasn't Gil's best game, but to be fair to him he was an injury doubt and looked shattered when he came off. Still, he was one of the few players trying to keep the ball on the deck and in possession.

We need as much game time as possible our of Gil and Sinclair. They're the ones who could make a difference. Benteke obviously could too, but honestly, the will doesn't look like it's there any more.

[supertom]

wonder if he's looking at bringing some of the loanees back to give him a few options,Bennet ,Gardner Robinson ,looking at the bench yesterday didn't inspire, maybe Lowton in a forward roll at least he can cross or some kid in the reserves with no fear,I know its desperate but needs must?

I don't believe any of those players would make any difference at all

I know what you mean Pete and I did say desperate,Bennett had a stormed yesterday against Blues,with an assist and Garder is getting good reviews as a holding player for Forest, Robinson got MOM for Preston including an assist for Daniel Johnson.I admit I,'m clutching at straws but with Kevin Mac back who knows them might be worth a shout.

Bennett aside, I'd probably give all of them a go at this stage. Are they all away for the remainder of the season though?

Certainly in the short term, I'd like us to bring Grealish in. He could do with a run of starts.

[PaulWinch again]

Sinclair and Gil are very important to us now.

[supertom]

wonder if he's looking at bringing some of the loanees back to give him a few options,Bennet ,Gardner Robinson ,looking at the bench yesterday didn't inspire, maybe Lowton in a forward roll at least he can cross or some kid in the reserves with no fear,I know its desperate but needs must?

I don't believe any of those players would make any difference at all

Possibly not, but if it keeps Gabby and Weimann out the side, it would be good. At the very least it could freshen things up a bit.

[claret and blue blood]

Sinclair and Gil are very important to us now.

Agreed,thought Sinclair in particular looked fast and direct plus he scored a great header,think there's more to come from him,Gil seemed to spend a lot of time out wide,I'd play him just behind Benteke.

[supertom]

Sinclair and Gil are very important to us now.

Agreed,thought Sinclair in particular looked fast and direct plus he scored a great header,think there's more to come from him,Gil seemed to spend a lot of time out wide,I'd play him just behind Benteke.

I'd go with Delph and Westwood at the base and play Sinclair, Gil and Bacuna as a three behind Benteke. Delph and Westwood aren't going to score goals so I'd keep them sitting predominantly, with Delph given a little license for the odd surge forward.