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Offline hilts_coolerking

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #885 on: February 16, 2015, 01:19:42 PM »
It's just a hatchet job from line one. He did a better job at Spurs than AVB, no doubt. He's not a massive name, so what, neither are we anymore. We need enthusiasm and we need energy, he will provide it. He won't provide Mourinho style tactical nuances but then we are trying to stay up not win the Champions League. Basically the bloke who wrote the article doesn't like him so picks out meaningless things like the gillet to bash him. The Benfica manager row, he was taking the piss and Sherwood took offence to it, he wasn't going to back down, good for him. It's about fucking time we had someone stand up for our club you know, instead of being the butt of the medias jokes, good old Villa 0, no shots since Jesus how funny. If this is the guy to do it and we stay up and have a bit of pride and passion about us again then he's done a bloody good job for me and he's going to get my backing.

Spurs ponces.
Well said.
Actually most of that was being said about him on here in the days before he was appointed.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #886 on: February 16, 2015, 01:22:08 PM »
Not madly keen that he said the players can play 'off the cuff'. I've often thought that our biggest problem is too great a reliance on making-it-up-as-we-go-along type football, and not enough planning. However, they've certainly been playing within themselves for practically the whole season, so if he can get them to open up a bit and believe in themselves, that might well keep us up, and we'll cross the other bridge when we come to it.

I think the opposite. We don't see any invention or unorthodoxy, because we attack in such a rigidly predictable manner. A mixture of our poor form breeding low confidence and the way we're set up to not lose contributes to it.

I am not saying a higher degree of attacking organisation is not what's required; knowing who will make the runs and to where will help.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #887 on: February 16, 2015, 01:22:42 PM »
It's just a hatchet job from line one. He did a better job at Spurs than AVB, no doubt. He's not a massive name, so what, neither are we anymore. We need enthusiasm and we need energy, he will provide it. He won't provide Mourinho style tactical nuances but then we are trying to stay up not win the Champions League. Basically the bloke who wrote the article doesn't like him so picks out meaningless things like the gillet to bash him. The Benfica manager row, he was taking the piss and Sherwood took offence to it, he wasn't going to back down, good for him. It's about fucking time we had someone stand up for our club you know, instead of being the butt of the medias jokes, good old Villa 0, no shots since Jesus how funny. If this is the guy to do it and we stay up and have a bit of pride and passion about us again then he's done a bloody good job for me and he's going to get my backing.

Spurs ponces.
Well said.
Actually most of that was being said about him on here in the days before he was appointed.

And in many places by 'poncy Spurs fans'. It just reminds me a lot, as someone else said, of when the Sunderland fans didn't listen to us about MON when they appointed him. They just looked at the 6th place finishes and thought that was the whole story.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #888 on: February 16, 2015, 01:23:43 PM »
Not madly keen that he said the players can play 'off the cuff'. I've often thought that our biggest problem is too great a reliance on making-it-up-as-we-go-along type football, and not enough planning. However, they've certainly been playing within themselves for practically the whole season, so if he can get them to open up a bit and believe in themselves, that might well keep us up, and we'll cross the other bridge when we come to it.

I think the opposite. We don't see any invention or unorthodoxy, because we attack in such a rigidly predictable manner. A mixture of our poor form breeding low confidence and the way we're set up to not lose contributes to it.

I am not saying a higher degree of attacking organisation is not what's required; knowing who will make the runs and to where will help.

I think we managed to actually look both rigid AND aimless. We destroyed all kinds of logic there.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #889 on: February 16, 2015, 01:26:31 PM »
The first goal on Sunday showed that, with Vlaar making a run that made the opposition lose their shape, which gave Bacuna a one-on-one chance...

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #890 on: February 16, 2015, 01:27:16 PM »
This made me laugh.. especially the last line.

Was an English chancer really the best Villa could do?

There is a school of thought among some English ex-footballers, pundits and managers that English managers don't get treated with the same respect that foreigners do: the Sam Allardici argument.

This has always flown in the face of all the evidence, and the career of Tim Sherwood is the clincher.

If a foreigner had Sherwood's record, there is no way on earth that he would be getting the job at Aston Villa. Sherwood was manager of Spurs - in itself a position he would never, ever have got if he came from Buenos Aires rather than Borehamwood - for just 28 matches. And then he got sacked. Now he's the best man to save one of England's greatest (and most screwed-up) clubs from relegation? Seven League Titles, seven FA Cups, a European Cup… and this is the best they could do?

Sherwood's job will be made the harder because the Villa chief executive Tom Fox is also inexperienced; and the club are currently advertising for a director of football operations. Will that person be working above or below Sherwood? If it's below, what sort of experienced operator would choose to be under Sherwood? He is also, at time of writing, looking for an assistant.

At the absolute minimum, it's a big gamble. So why have Villa taken it? What does Tim Sherwood bring?

Sherwood has become something of a totem for ex-players in England. What he has, in spades, is a bunch of noisy and high profile mates in the media. Alan Shearer, Paul Merson and Jamie Redknapp are just three who have been touting him.

The press are keen for him to get the job because he's permanently peeved and angry; and likely to do and say things he shouldn't. That wins every time over a sensible technocrat. He also gets how to talk to the media, in a way that the man he replaced at Tottenham, Andre Villas Boas, never did.

Shearer was stating Sherwood's claims on the BBC yesterday. "We saw at Spurs that he is not afraid to ruffle feathers and upset people," said the England great. Translation: he shouted at the fancy foreign types and kicked them in five-a-side matches where possible.

Football has made vast leaps in terms of conditioning and preparation over the last few years, but for English players and indeed fans of a certain vintage, there's just nothing better than yelling at some Portuguese glove-wearing poseur in the Queen's English. They don't like it up 'em.

The boys in the studio will be hailing him for England manager within a year

This is not to say that getting in people's faces is Sherwood's only skill. Far from it. Professor Merson had also done his homework on the debate, commenting: "Tim doesn't mind throwing younger players into the team, as we saw during his time at Spurs."

"Selecting slightly younger players" might seem like a bit of a thin basis for a professional reputation, but if it's good enough for Merse, then who can argue with that? If only the likes of Ancelotti, Van Gaal and Mourinho would cotton on to the idea of picking young players, they could really go places. Come off it, Merse,

In addition to having a sizeable cheerleading squad in the world of punditry, Sherwood is a determined and disciplined self-publicist. His method so far has largely involved staring at the camera as if he is about to chin it, and telling everyone who will listen how good he is at managing. Sunday's game with Leicester was a case in point, when a few half-time pearls of wisdom in an advisory, popping-in capacity apparently won them the game.

If you're a chancer, you need a good bedrock of support, which Sherwood has. You need a gimmick, like the gillet. You need a bit of charm and a knack for the grand gesture, which he showed he definitely has, with the Adebayor salute. You also need a message that is simple and alluring and anyone can grasp. In Sherwood's case, that's a back-to-basics get stuck in, hit the big man and don't take any prisoners. The boys in the studio will be hailing him for England manager within a year, I guarantee you.

Where/ who did this come from?

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #891 on: February 16, 2015, 01:29:47 PM »
I don't think Sherwood needs to be a master tactician to get a noticeable improvement from the team this season. Energy, enthusiasm and a desire to play positive football and motivate the squad could see us comfortably safe this season. At the moment I'm not looking too far beyond that as future plans all depend on being in the top flight.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #892 on: February 16, 2015, 01:30:09 PM »
Where/ who did this come from?

ESPN.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #893 on: February 16, 2015, 01:31:11 PM »
It's just a hatchet job from line one. He did a better job at Spurs than AVB, no doubt. He's not a massive name, so what, neither are we anymore. We need enthusiasm and we need energy, he will provide it. He won't provide Mourinho style tactical nuances but then we are trying to stay up not win the Champions League. Basically the bloke who wrote the article doesn't like him so picks out meaningless things like the gillet to bash him. The Benfica manager row, he was taking the piss and Sherwood took offence to it, he wasn't going to back down, good for him. It's about fucking time we had someone stand up for our club you know, instead of being the butt of the medias jokes, good old Villa 0, no shots since Jesus how funny. If this is the guy to do it and we stay up and have a bit of pride and passion about us again then he's done a bloody good job for me and he's going to get my backing.

Spurs ponces.

Well said.
Actually most of that was being said about him on here in the days before he was appointed.
Not by me. Always had a feeling realistically he was the right man for the job, he is just the sort of personality we need to turn us around.
I hope he proves me right!

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #894 on: February 16, 2015, 01:31:27 PM »
I liked his line about wanting 14 cup finals. He's a cocky Cockney make no mistake.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #895 on: February 16, 2015, 01:37:44 PM »
Not madly keen that he said the players can play 'off the cuff'.

I read it as meaning those moments of creativity that can win games. Like Bacuna's goal yesterday, or Benteke's scooped pass that put Sinclair through.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #896 on: February 16, 2015, 01:38:38 PM »
I think he will do alright with us I'm looking forward to see us play under him.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #897 on: February 16, 2015, 01:41:46 PM »
You can see why he can wind up certain players but he does speak his mind...this from late 2014

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x294yy5_sherwood-talks-spurs_sport

Despite my reservations, I might be starting to warm to him.

Value for the club, justify your transfer fee and wages, not playing nodding dog for Sky Sports (who should be sent to room 101 he said in a previous interview from way back.)

Lets just hope he can win a few matches.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #898 on: February 16, 2015, 01:50:20 PM »
In addition to having a sizeable cheerleading squad in the world of punditry, Sherwood is a determined and disciplined self-publicist. His method so far has largely involved staring at the camera as if he is about to chin it, and telling everyone who will listen how good he is at managing. Sunday's game with Leicester was a case in point, when a few half-time pearls of wisdom in an advisory, popping-in capacity apparently won them the game.

And yet there was a marked difference between the first and second half performance. Maybe there wasn't a great deal he needed to say, who knows.  The main thing, of course, was the result, however it was achieved.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #899 on: February 16, 2015, 02:27:28 PM »
If we stay up its a good appointment.

We were looking like we had less fight than a Ghandi and mother Teresa tag team.

 


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