It's not Sherwood!

[Villa in Denmark]

Coach? Alex Ferguson wasn't a coach. Mourinhio isn't a coach. I want a manager who can win games.

What's the big obsession with a coach? A coach belongs in the NFL.

I think the obsession is that we haven't got any and it fucking shows.

No, a coach is something obssessed with only recently. Go backs few years and they're nothing. Who's Man City or Chelsea's coach? Do they matter more than their managers? No. Blatantly not.

One of the things that worries me moist about Sherwood

I think perhaps that you care too much.

Bollocks.  Using wife's laptop with some very strange language / spellchecker settings.

That's my excuse and I'm "sticking" to it.

[amfy]

on these boards during the last few weeks and months there has been a common sentiment along the lines that anyone would be better than Lambert because at least we would get a bit of a lift from the change.

i'm not feeling that lift, but I think we need to look for it, find it, create it if we have to........or we can just carry on moaning, but I think that will carry on feeling quite shit.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

Mont, I think you get the wins, home and away by motivating the players.   Buy in the staff to apply the polish to the players.

Mourinho once said about motivating players that 'if they're not motivated, they shouldn't be at the club.' Obviously man-management is important, and Mourinho was doing his usual stuff there, but it's massively overrated in this country and tactics are massively underrated. Why do we think we never do anything in World Cups? Because we're not 'motivated' enough? We never learn.

Everyone needs motivating through one means or another. If you don't understand that, well I give up.

[Monty]

Mont, I think you get the wins, home and away by motivating the players.   Buy in the staff to apply the polish to the players.

Mourinho once said about motivating players that 'if they're not motivated, they shouldn't be at the club.' Obviously man-management is important, and Mourinho was doing his usual stuff there, but it's massively overrated in this country and tactics are massively underrated. Why do we think we never do anything in World Cups? Because we're not 'motivated' enough? We never learn.

Everyone needs motivating through one means or another. If you don't understand that, well I give up.

Of course I understand that, I'm just saying it's rated too highly in this country over other things. I'd be delighted for you to give up though, as you're misreading of what I was saying there was so bad it was almost like you were trying.

[hilts_coolerking]

Everyone needs motivating through one means or another. If you don't understand that, well I give up.

I agree but Sherwood's method for doing that - up and at 'em, pointing the finger and shouting - seems somewhat archaic.  As we all know from our training courses shouting only works for so long.  Assuming it works at all.

[Archie]

on these boards during the last few weeks and months there has been a common sentiment along the lines that anyone would be better than Lambert

If you have a bunch of decent players that don't pass the ball, don't shoot, don't score, don't create any single goal opportunity and concede silly goals you can have a certain suspicion.

[brian green]

I think it is possible to be over motivated.   It is tempting to say we are never any good in World Cups because the players are over motivated but that would not be true.  The quality of our players does not allow them to be fine tuned to the level of teams blessed with better players.   The technical ability of our players has lagged behind the top teams for decades.
But I am talking about the current Villa squad and the immediate need to stay in the Premiership and then achieve Premiership security.   I think most of us agree that there is a lot of quality in the current Villa squad which is dormant.   My opinion is that the quickest and most direct way to get our players playing closer to their potential is by motivating them.   It obviously is not the whole solution and that is where high level coaching  and, dare I add, players who can respond to coaching, comes in.   Once we are safe a more relaxed and cerebral approach can be adopted.   For the moment I will settle for an end to weekly humiliation and mockery.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Well said amfy.
I'm not a big fan of the appointment but he's who we've got and we need to be positive about the fact that things have changed, which we all wanted, theoretically can only get better, and if Sherwood is the sort who gives underperforming players a rocket, so be it.
I bet we've all wanted to have a word in Gabby's ear this season!

Let's get behind the team tomorrow and beyond and show them, and every other fu**er out there, how much we care about our club and how much we're prepared to back them.
Come on you Villa boys!

[Damo70]

Good luck Mr Sherwood. You have my full support and a half decent squad of players to work with.

Ignore the people on this site who slag you off before you have even started and for no good reason. They will be the ones who "always backed your appointment" after you win 2 games in a row (and then start to talk about qualifying for the Champions League).

Your joking. These days he will have most of us onside with a goal. Two in a game and the petition starts for a statue.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Mont, I think you get the wins, home and away by motivating the players.   Buy in the staff to apply the polish to the players.

Mourinho once said about motivating players that 'if they're not motivated, they shouldn't be at the club.' Obviously man-management is important, and Mourinho was doing his usual stuff there, but it's massively overrated in this country and tactics are massively underrated. Why do we think we never do anything in World Cups? Because we're not 'motivated' enough? We never learn.

To be fair though Mourinho also happens to be a master motivator , he is being a bit coy there about the notion he ignores that side, clearly he doesn't. Also (and I am really stretching here but bear with me)  Diego Simeone has gained success a lot by his ability to fire up his players game after game.

[Monty]

Mont, I think you get the wins, home and away by motivating the players.   Buy in the staff to apply the polish to the players.

Mourinho once said about motivating players that 'if they're not motivated, they shouldn't be at the club.' Obviously man-management is important, and Mourinho was doing his usual stuff there, but it's massively overrated in this country and tactics are massively underrated. Why do we think we never do anything in World Cups? Because we're not 'motivated' enough? We never learn.

To be fair though Mourinho also happens to be a master motivator , he is being a bit coy there about the notion he ignores that side, clearly he doesn't. Also (and I am really stretching here but bear with me)  Diego Simeone has gained success a lot by his ability to fire up his players game after game.

I'm not saying it's not important, just that without tactics it gets you nowhere. I've never seen anything that can demoralise players more than not having a gameplan and getting ripped to shreds by the opposition.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Mont, I think you get the wins, home and away by motivating the players.   Buy in the staff to apply the polish to the players.

Mourinho once said about motivating players that 'if they're not motivated, they shouldn't be at the club.' Obviously man-management is important, and Mourinho was doing his usual stuff there, but it's massively overrated in this country and tactics are massively underrated. Why do we think we never do anything in World Cups? Because we're not 'motivated' enough? We never learn.

To be fair though Mourinho also happens to be a master motivator , he is being a bit coy there about the notion he ignores that side, clearly he doesn't. Also (and I am really stretching here but bear with me)  Diego Simeone has gained success a lot by his ability to fire up his players game after game.

I'm not saying it's not important, just that without tactics it gets you nowhere. I've never seen anything that can demoralise players more than not having a gameplan and getting ripped to shreds by the opposition.

Oh no doubt and the last thing I wanted was another british tactical dinosaur. I guess we will just have to wait and hope Sherwood is not that stereotype.

[garyfouroaks]

Lets just hope that a change, some new tactics, and a fresh voice make a difference.

[hilts_coolerking]

Oh no doubt and the last thing I wanted was another british tactical dinosaur. I guess we will just have to wait and hope Sherwood is not that stereotype.

I think this is my problem with the whole thing: why don't we just appoint someone we already know isn't another British tactical dinosaur?  Why take a punt on someone who may be another British tactical dinosaur?  From the painfully limited experience he has it seems he could well be.

[Toronto Villa]

The notion that Mourinho doesn't use motivation is nonsense. It might not be the shouty type of motivation but he is incredibly skilled at creating situations by which he generates team unity. Both him and Ferguson are and were masters at that. And Ferguson, one the world's most successful managers certainly wasn't against raising his voice.

As Sherwood develops he'll need to figure out for himself different ways to keep his team focused. Shouting only works for so long so if he wants to be successful then he'll need to add more strings to his bow. He needs to couple that with tactics and strategy off course which will ultimately determine his success.