Sir Doug Ellis donates £1 million

[Ian.]

Revisionist History Pisses me off.
Doug was a self-serving bugger who, having a good enough business acumen to create a travel business in the 60,s and 70,s wheeled and dealed himself  around Midlands football.
He tried his luck at us, the bloose and unless I am mistaken a stint at Wolves.
His exploits are well recorded on this forum, Paid Chairman, launching a share scheme, Accepting a stand named after him, yes Doug would have probably sacked Lambert after his first season, but so would I.
Doug is an old man and you can not take it with you, so (if I am cynical ) he is trying to create a legacy.
Well good luck to him, he still goes to the games, but so do many others without his resources and frankly what else would he do on a Saturday ?
I bear nobody any ill will (hey I watched Bunker and felt sorry for Hitler) but Doug is no Angel. At best he was a stubborn old fucker who missed the Premier League vision and did not invest when we finished second in the first year.
At worst he was a, greedy,  manipulative, spiteful, egotistical twat .
 

Excellently put.

[Jimbo]

Revisionist History Pisses me off.
Doug was a self-serving bugger who, having a good enough business acumen to create a travel business in the 60,s and 70,s wheeled and dealed himself  around Midlands football.
He tried his luck at us, the bloose and unless I am mistaken a stint at Wolves.
His exploits are well recorded on this forum, Paid Chairman, launching a share scheme, Accepting a stand named after him, yes Doug would have probably sacked Lambert after his first season, but so would I.
Doug is an old man and you can not take it with you, so (if I am cynical ) he is trying to create a legacy.
Well good luck to him, he still goes to the games, but so do many others without his resources and frankly what else would he do on a Saturday ?
I bear nobody any ill will (hey I watched Bunker and felt sorry for Hitler) but Doug is no Angel. At best he was a stubborn old fucker who missed the Premier League vision and did not invest when we finished second in the first year.
At worst he was a, greedy,  manipulative, spiteful, egotistical twat .
 

Spot on, although a tad too long for the headstone.

[saunders_heroes]

Revisionist History Pisses me off.
Doug was a self-serving bugger who, having a good enough business acumen to create a travel business in the 60,s and 70,s wheeled and dealed himself  around Midlands football.
He tried his luck at us, the bloose and unless I am mistaken a stint at Wolves.
His exploits are well recorded on this forum, Paid Chairman, launching a share scheme, Accepting a stand named after him, yes Doug would have probably sacked Lambert after his first season, but so would I.
Doug is an old man and you can not take it with you, so (if I am cynical ) he is trying to create a legacy.
Well good luck to him, he still goes to the games, but so do many others without his resources and frankly what else would he do on a Saturday ?
I bear nobody any ill will (hey I watched Bunker and felt sorry for Hitler) but Doug is no Angel. At best he was a stubborn old fucker who missed the Premier League vision and did not invest when we finished second in the first year.
At worst he was a, greedy,  manipulative, spiteful, egotistical twat .
 

I'm not too keen on following a lengthy post with a one word reply such as 'agreed' but it's the only one possible here.

But I'd still take him over the charlatan of a chairman we have in charge now.

[LeeB]

We were selling the Serpentine to cover running costs before Lerner took over. We'd have been out of the division long before now.

[saunders_heroes]

We were selling the Serpentine to cover running costs before Lerner took over. We'd have been out of the division long before now.

Well we'll never know that for sure, but under Lerner we're getting closer to the drop with every season that passes.

[PeterWithesShin]

I have never been more sure we would be going down the following season as I was the last game of 05/06. Mr Fickle hiding as season ticket books were thrown on the pitch during the lap of appreciation, the club without a pot to piss in.

[saunders_heroes]

I have never been more sure we would be going down the following season as I was the last game of 05/06. Mr Fickle hiding as season ticket books were thrown on the pitch during the lap of appreciation, the club without a pot to piss in.

Thankfully the bad times were relatively short under Ellis. Unlike now under Lerner.

[dave.woodhall]

When did Ellis ever get us back to the times he inherited?

[ktvillan]

Revisionist History Pisses me off.
Doug was a self-serving bugger who, having a good enough business acumen to create a travel business in the 60,s and 70,s wheeled and dealed himself  around Midlands football.
He tried his luck at us, the bloose and unless I am mistaken a stint at Wolves.
His exploits are well recorded on this forum, Paid Chairman, launching a share scheme, Accepting a stand named after him, yes Doug would have probably sacked Lambert after his first season, but so would I.
Doug is an old man and you can not take it with you, so (if I am cynical ) he is trying to create a legacy.
Well good luck to him, he still goes to the games, but so do many others without his resources and frankly what else would he do on a Saturday ?
I bear nobody any ill will (hey I watched Bunker and felt sorry for Hitler) but Doug is no Angel. At best he was a stubborn old fucker who missed the Premier League vision and did not invest when we finished second in the first year.
At worst he was a, greedy,  manipulative, spiteful, egotistical twat .
 

Actually quite marvellously put Steamer, especially the last line.  Should really be Doug's epitaph.

[saunders_heroes]

When did Ellis ever get us back to the times he inherited?

I never said he did so god knows why you're asking. What I do know though is that the bad times under Ellis never lasted as long as this shitty little era we now find ourselves under Lerner.
5 relegation battles on the trot. What an absolute disgrace.

[LeeB]

When did Ellis ever get us back to the times he inherited?

I never said he did so god knows why you're asking. What I do know though is that the bad times under Ellis never lasted as long as this shitty little era we now find ourselves under Lerner.
5 relegation battles on the trot. What an absolute disgrace.

Yeah, it is, but so was what happened after 1982.

And we find ourselves here through haplessness, whereas we found ourselves there through spite.

[saunders_heroes]

When did Ellis ever get us back to the times he inherited?

I never said he did so god knows why you're asking. What I do know though is that the bad times under Ellis never lasted as long as this shitty little era we now find ourselves under Lerner.
5 relegation battles on the trot. What an absolute disgrace.

Yeah, it is, but so was what happened after 1982.

And we find ourselves here through haplessness, whereas we found ourselves there through spite.

Again that's just your opinion. I for one think what Lerner has done to us over the last 5 years is disgraceful and down to pure spite.
This from the so called Villa "custodian".
Don't make me fuckin laugh, Randy.

[dave.woodhall]

When did Ellis ever get us back to the times he inherited?

I never said he did so god knows why you're asking. What I do know though is that the bad times under Ellis never lasted as long as this shitty little era we now find ourselves under Lerner.
5 relegation battles on the trot. What an absolute disgrace.

Yes, you'd have thought he could have managed it once or twice. Ellis did.

[LeeB]

Even if it were down to spite, which I can't believe you honestly think it is, it would still be rank haplessness as he would only be in spite of himself.

It would be the definition of shooting yourself in the foot, he'd lose himself even more money. Something that the Master Businessman would certainly never have allowed to happen.

[dave.woodhall]

When did Ellis ever get us back to the times he inherited?

I never said he did so god knows why you're asking. What I do know though is that the bad times under Ellis never lasted as long as this shitty little era we now find ourselves under Lerner.
5 relegation battles on the trot. What an absolute disgrace.

Yeah, it is, but so was what happened after 1982.

And we find ourselves here through haplessness, whereas we found ourselves there through spite.

Again that's just your opinion. I for one think what Lerner has done to us over the last 5 years is disgraceful and down to pure spite.
This from the so called Villa "custodian".
Don't make me fuckin laugh, Randy.

It's not just Lee's opinion. Ask Dennis Mortimer and Allan Evans for a start.