Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable

[levico]

I'm getting the uncomfortable feeling that the obstinate bunker mentality that seems to afflicting all within the club will be ultimately the most damaging aspect of the current situation.

In the face of huge clamour (see also 'false narrative') they have their hands over their ears and are loudly 'la la la - ing' to themselves.

In May, probably much sooner, we will all be able to say we told you so, but then it will be too late, the damage will have been done irreparably.

I think we may be on the verge of something disastrously cataclysmic in the history of our great club. Laughing stock doesn't begin to describe it. I think even those Bluesnoses who are capable of rational thought will feel sorry for us.

[FranzBiberkopf]

In May, probably much sooner, we will all be able to say we told you so, but then it will be too late, the damage will have been done irreparably.

I think we may be on the verge of something disastrously cataclysmic

Nothing like a spot of hyperbole is there?

Anything that happens in May is but a blip in along and illustrious history.

In a perverse way, I actually admire Fox/Lerner for sticking this out. Jan/Feb is no time to be changing a manager. If they thought he was 'good' enough in September(rightly or wrongly), they should back him in Feb too.

He needs to be gone come mid-May though. Whichever division we are in.

[Ads]

In a perverse way, I actually admire Fox/Lerner for sticking this out. Jan/Feb is no time to be changing a manager. If they thought he was 'good' enough in September(rightly or wrongly), they should back him in Feb too.

He needs to be gone come mid-May though. Whichever division we are in.

Since September at Anfield, we have played 19 games, scored 7 goals, won just two and drawn six.

Simple maths to extrapolate that over a season puts us on 24 points, with just 14 goals. That isn't just relegation form, its bottom of the league, Sunderland/Derby County relegation form. 

I think it is indefensible and the manager should be sacked.

[German James]

In a perverse way, I actually admire Fox/Lerner for sticking this out. Jan/Feb is no time to be changing a manager. If they thought he was 'good' enough in September(rightly or wrongly), they should back him in Feb too.

That might work out in a feel-good movie where the underdog comes on to hit the winning home touchdown in the seventh down and quarter (probably starring Robin Williams), but, even if you take the fans' passion out of the equation, the club is not just declining but in freefall and, as Ads says, that is indefensible. From a business point of view, if nothing else.

[levico]

In May, probably much sooner, we will all be able to say we told you so, but then it will be too late, the damage will have been done irreparably.

I think we may be on the verge of something disastrously cataclysmic

Nothing like a spot of hyperbole is there?

Anything that happens in May is but a blip in along and illustrious history.

In a perverse way, I actually admire Fox/Lerner for sticking this out. Jan/Feb is no time to be changing a manager. If they thought he was 'good' enough in September(rightly or wrongly), they should back him in Feb too.

He needs to be gone come mid-May though. Whichever division we are in.

'Kin hell.

Are you a wind up merchant?

If not, you are part of the problem matey.

[Jimbo]

Yes, let the disaster happen first, then remove the cause of it. Great thinking.

[FranzBiberkopf]

Yes, let the disaster happen first, then remove the cause of it. Great thinking.

The cause of it isn't Lambert. Its above him. All but the most exceptional manager would fail with the current setup/constraints.

I'm all for changing in the summer.

I simply couldn't see a Redknapp,a Curbishley, a Pulis doing any better/worse than Lambert if they were appointed tomorrow.

We need to get the right man in, rather than knee jerk because we're in a battle like 6 other teams down there.

[Phil from the upper holte]

I emailed him after the Leicester disgrace, I was very polite, No capital shouting but I never got a reply, he's either A) working through 50,000+ emails or B) Deleting them..

I'd go with B myself, he's sitting there in blissful ignorance

[Phil from the upper holte]

In a perverse way, I actually admire Fox/Lerner for sticking this out. Jan/Feb is no time to be changing a manager. If they thought he was 'good' enough in September(rightly or wrongly), they should back him in Feb too.

He needs to be gone come mid-May though. Whichever division we are in.

Since September at Anfield, we have played 19 games, scored 7 goals, won just two and drawn six.

Simple maths to extrapolate that over a season puts us on 24 points, with just 14 goals. That isn't just relegation form, its bottom of the league, Sunderland/Derby County relegation form. 

I think it is indefensible and the manager should be sacked.

You are spot on, problem is apart from us no-on can see it.

[andyh]

ahhh, the old 'constraints' bollocks
What exactly are they ?

By the deluded ones own words, he has the strongest squad he has ever had.
By the deluded ones own words, he doesn't need an assistant.
From what we know, he had money available in the tansfer window (Gill, Sinclair and possibly Lambert R.)

Tossers like Charlie Nicolas keep going on about 'constraints' but no one explains what they are.

The only constraints I see are the ones related to match day tactics, performaces and results.   
 

 

[bertlambshank]

The sad thing about this thread is that, no matter how bad things get, whenever some Villa fans try to do something to arrest our slide - however futile - other Villa fans will always mock them. I don't know whether that's just a Villa thing or whether it happens at other clubs too, but we always turn on our own at times like this. I've never known unity among Villa fans.

I've never met Jon Fear, and I couldn't care less if he's got a messiah complex or not. I don't care about his letter being too long, boring, self-important and full of mistakes. At least he's doing something. I thought the 8-minute protest was ill-conceived, but at least they tried something. And I'd rather see that than a load of other fans standing on the sidelines doing nothing but taking the piss while the club we all support spirals out of control.

The club is in denial. The local press are too meek to get involved. The national press don't give a shit. So it's down to the fans to act. Let's cut the ones that do act a bit of slack.

No,claiming the that fans have been telling him to do something.I will call out a prick every single time.People like him you only hear from when things are shit

[mattjpa]

The sad thing about this thread is that, no matter how bad things get, whenever some Villa fans try to do something to arrest our slide - however futile - other Villa fans will always mock them. I don't know whether that's just a Villa thing or whether it happens at other clubs too, but we always turn on our own at times like this. I've never known unity among Villa fans.

I've never met Jon Fear, and I couldn't care less if he's got a messiah complex or not. I don't care about his letter being too long, boring, self-important and full of mistakes. At least he's doing something. I thought the 8-minute protest was ill-conceived, but at least they tried something. And I'd rather see that than a load of other fans standing on the sidelines doing nothing but taking the piss while the club we all support spirals out of control.

The club is in denial. The local press are too meek to get involved. The national press don't give a shit. So it's down to the fans to act. Let's cut the ones that do act a bit of slack.

No,claiming the that fans have been telling him to do something.I will call out a prick every single time.People like him you only hear from when things are shit

Thats the things though, he is well known as a well placed fan with links to the club, IMO. There is absolutely no doubt he will be being asked to do something on a regular basis by many people as regardless of differing beliefs we are all supporters. He has done something, whether you agree with what he has put or not, its commendable and not self serving (bar maybe some personal ego boosting).

I dislike the occasional whiff of superiority complex that eminates around this forum sometimes

[bertlambshank]

He thinks he is well placed,thats the point to all of this the inner circle of the club has been in place since TSM protest took place.
The fans could send a billion emails and it won't make a blond bit of difference.

[dave.woodhall]

The sad thing about this thread is that, no matter how bad things get, whenever some Villa fans try to do something to arrest our slide - however futile - other Villa fans will always mock them. I don't know whether that's just a Villa thing or whether it happens at other clubs too, but we always turn on our own at times like this. I've never known unity among Villa fans.

I've never met Jon Fear, and I couldn't care less if he's got a messiah complex or not. I don't care about his letter being too long, boring, self-important and full of mistakes. At least he's doing something. I thought the 8-minute protest was ill-conceived, but at least they tried something. And I'd rather see that than a load of other fans standing on the sidelines doing nothing but taking the piss while the club we all support spirals out of control.

The club is in denial. The local press are too meek to get involved. The national press don't give a shit. So it's down to the fans to act. Let's cut the ones that do act a bit of slack.

No,claiming the that fans have been telling him to do something.I will call out a prick every single time.People like him you only hear from when things are shit

Thats the things though, he is well known as a well placed fan with links to the club, IMO. There is absolutely no doubt he will be being asked to do something on a regular basis by many people as regardless of differing beliefs we are all supporters. He has done something, whether you agree with what he has put or not, its commendable and not self serving (bar maybe some personal ego boosting).

I dislike the occasional whiff of superiority complex that eminates around this forum sometimes

That's because we are superior.

[bertlambshank]

The superiority comes from people like The Fear and HH with his sodding report.