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Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #165 on: January 14, 2015, 05:10:09 PM »
We do need a protest, but this one can't really work - as Randy probably doesn't care, he knows you've already paid to be in the ground. That's all he cares about. Shame really.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #166 on: January 14, 2015, 05:22:03 PM »
Even if the protest is a damp squib, the media spotlight on his record and the fans disullusion has taken this a step forward in the last week and that represents progress to me. For the first time since he's been here, his record is now firmly in the spotlight.

It sure is, even a bit of accountability to the media is better than nothing. Rather than being asked bland nothing questions he's going to start to be asked what's going on and the faults highlighted.

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #167 on: January 14, 2015, 05:37:12 PM »
Well then I propose a booing for 4 minutes. 1 minute for each poor season we've had in a row. Or 11 minutes, 1 for each goal we've scored. Or boo non stop until the 82nd minute signifying the players of 82 turning in their graves at our plight.

I can see an obvious flaw in the latter.

Why isn't there a memorial at Villa Park?

I don't think Randy would allow it because he's jealous of what we achieved before him.

Did Randy just get confused with Doug? 

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #168 on: January 14, 2015, 08:59:50 PM »
I think it is a bad idea.

The total apathy in, around and within the club will not be galvanised by this 'protest' involving a few hundred people at most.

Lerner is trying to sell. There are no buyers. He is not willing to part with more than minimum amount of money as wants to at least cut his losses.

His failure is in not getting rid of Lambert,
though I suspect his thinking is that we have been effective at avoiding relegation in the previous 4 seasons without making a change half way through the season.

After all there were calls for Houllier to be binned (justifiably in my opinion) in late December 2010, calls for McLeish not to be hired at all (justifiably) and Lambert in January 2013 (understandably) and again in the spring of last season (justifiably).

Lerner didn't blink on those occasions so I suspect this 'protest' will be largely ignored and effect little change.

Completely agree with the second point.
The first point I'm inclined to give him a bit of slack on, re the obstacles to finding a buyer.
Given that he appears to be genuine in being honourable and trying to the right thing in just about everything he does (such a great shame he's appalling at running sporting enterprises), personally I can just as easily believe that, at least in part, he's trying to ensure that he hands over to "the right sort".

However, if he drops the asking price to say £100M and sells to the second richest hairdresser in China, how well do we think that would turn out?

There's an article in the current H&V about how he gets the DNA of the club, and I think that's pretty much right.
No denying it's a risk running the 1st team the way Lambert's running it, both from a performance point if view / risk of relegation and damage to the fan base as people get out of the habit of going.

If we've got to tread water until a new owner comes in, there's no reason for it to be so eyewateringly poor in style, and this squad should be more than capable of gathering a few more points along the way than it does.

The problem I have with the argument about "well despite everything we're still 12th / 13th" is that it all feels like false security, largely because of the "styles" he's employed.
Hit and hope, or pass around with the all the penetration of a eunuch, we just don't create chances and sit far too deep.

How many of our wins this season have felt truly comfortable? We even sat back and allowed 10 man Leicester to have a go at snatching an equaliser.

You just know every time he turns a bad run around and goes 4 or 5 unbeaten, with a couple of wins, we're only ever 1 game away from another 7-8 game winless run where we only gain a couple of points and slide down the table.


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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #169 on: January 14, 2015, 09:08:13 PM »
Well then I propose a booing for 4 minutes. 1 minute for each poor season we've had in a row. Or 11 minutes, 1 for each goal we've scored. Or boo non stop until the 82nd minute signifying the players of 82 turning in their graves at our plight.

I can see an obvious flaw in the latter.

Why isn't there a memorial at Villa Park?

I don't think Randy would allow it because he's jealous of what we achieved before him.

Did Randy just get confused with Doug? 

Well then I propose a booing for 4 minutes. 1 minute for each poor season we've had in a row. Or 11 minutes, 1 for each goal we've scored. Or boo non stop until the 82nd minute signifying the players of 82 turning in their graves at our plight.

I can see an obvious flaw in the latter.

Why isn't there a memorial at Villa Park?

I don't think Randy would allow it because he's jealous of what we achieved before him.

Did Randy just get confused with Doug? 

No, I have it on good authority that he's particulary jealous of the 96/97 season when we finished 5th. He won't hear a word spoke about it.

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #170 on: January 14, 2015, 09:50:27 PM »
I read the report and it said they decided on 8 minutes to mark 8 seasons of frustration under Lerner.

Surely it should be 4 as I doubt even Saunders-Heroes was dishing out Lerner abuse on here between 2006-10 when the frustrations were at MON for playing centre backs at right back and spending untold millions on rubbish british players rather than Lerner.

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #171 on: January 14, 2015, 10:03:55 PM »
I shall be leading the 1 man protest in the Upper Trinity - meet at the betting booth next to the A1 stairs - there's always plenty of room (and a decent view of the monitor)

That'll show 'em   ;-)

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #172 on: January 14, 2015, 10:09:55 PM »
Those in the Trinity should remove their ties for the first 8 minutes waving them around San Siro style.

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #173 on: January 14, 2015, 10:13:12 PM »
Those in the Trinity should remove their ties for the first 8 minutes waving them around San Siro style.

Or smuggle a scooter up there and chuck it down into the Middle Trinity.

Preferably towards the directors' box.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #174 on: January 14, 2015, 10:19:59 PM »
The Trinity lads should make paper planes from their Daily Mail TV guide and throw them all towards the Holte Goal on 1 minute mark.

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #175 on: January 14, 2015, 10:20:18 PM »
A Vespa?

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #176 on: January 14, 2015, 10:29:16 PM »
I read the report and it said they decided on 8 minutes to mark 8 seasons of frustration under Lerner.

Surely it should be 4 as I doubt even Saunders-Heroes was dishing out Lerner abuse on here between 2006-10 when the frustrations were at MON for playing centre backs at right back and spending untold millions on rubbish british players rather than Lerner.

Absolutely. I loved Lerner's first 4 seasons, they were great. The 4.5 seasons since have been nothing short of disgraceful though.

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #177 on: January 14, 2015, 10:34:42 PM »
I shall be leading the 1 man protest in the Upper Trinity - meet at the betting booth next to the A1 stairs - there's always plenty of room (and a decent view of the monitor)

That'll show 'em   ;-)

Make that two man. I'm in

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #178 on: January 14, 2015, 11:00:14 PM »
I sit in the Trinity.
I usually:
argue with the steward about me standing.
Join in with the singing from the Holte.
abuse the latecomers...for being "late" with their fu**ing tartylattecappuciniwankyfarty paper cups with lids on!
argue with the steward about me and my mate standing.
join in with the Holte.
excahange insults with the twats in the boxes just behind us - against Arse it became very physical - how no-one was ejected was incredible. Slaps were exchanged! Anywhere else in the ground there would have been "an incident".
argue with the steward about me, my mate and his daughter standing.
sing with the Holte.
chat with steward about what a hard job he's got.
go for a piss.
abuse the latecomers...for being "late" with their fu**ing tartylattecappuciniwankyfarty paper cups with lids on!
argue with the steward about me standing.
argue with the steward about the senselessness of ending my life when I am so young, handsome and things at VP can only get better.
apologise to the steward about my foul and abusive language.
ditto.
ditto.
ditto.
argue with the steward about me standing/shouting/swearing.
sit in my seat, head in hands, cry.
hold hands with the steward as a sign of solidarity, mopping my tears with his hanky.
return his hanky.
slither homewards, hoping the rain disguises my tears. And every fu**er else's.

The match day experience at VP!


 

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Re: Liverpool protest ?
« Reply #179 on: January 14, 2015, 11:50:40 PM »
I read the report and it said they decided on 8 minutes to mark 8 seasons of frustration under Lerner.

Surely it should be 4 as I doubt even Saunders-Heroes was dishing out Lerner abuse on here between 2006-10 when the frustrations were at MON for playing centre backs at right back and spending untold millions on rubbish british players rather than Lerner.

Absolutely. I loved Lerner's first 4 seasons, they were great. The 4.5 seasons since have been nothing short of disgraceful though.

Yeah I have no issue if it starts at four and a half minutes. Just surprised the report on it seemed to say the whole Lerner era was a total disaster.

 


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