Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 14, 2015, 10:02:32 AMQuote from: enigma on January 14, 2015, 09:59:19 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 13, 2015, 11:45:12 PMI have a feeling that any type of crowd hanging around underneath the concourses will be asked to go to their seats or be ejected, at which point they will complain that the club are being unfair in not allowing them to create a hazard.That wouldn't happen at all though. A few thousand people aren't going to be ejected. They'll just wait for the eight minutes to elapse and let the people take their seats again. Trying to throw that many people out could get pretty ugly and create a far bigger hazard. Better to wait a few minutes and let it all blow over.Personally I wish the protesters well. Better that the fans start doing something than just meekly accepting whatever shit is served their way. We've been doing that for far too long.You reckon the police will happily let crowds gather without doing something? Yes. If it went on significantly longer than eight minutes then of course they might do something. But otherwise they'd let it play out. It is only eight minutes afterall. Trying to eject a few thousand people could easily make things a whole lot worse. Police prefer 'soft policing' these days in these situations.
Quote from: enigma on January 14, 2015, 09:59:19 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on January 13, 2015, 11:45:12 PMI have a feeling that any type of crowd hanging around underneath the concourses will be asked to go to their seats or be ejected, at which point they will complain that the club are being unfair in not allowing them to create a hazard.That wouldn't happen at all though. A few thousand people aren't going to be ejected. They'll just wait for the eight minutes to elapse and let the people take their seats again. Trying to throw that many people out could get pretty ugly and create a far bigger hazard. Better to wait a few minutes and let it all blow over.Personally I wish the protesters well. Better that the fans start doing something than just meekly accepting whatever shit is served their way. We've been doing that for far too long.You reckon the police will happily let crowds gather without doing something?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 13, 2015, 11:45:12 PMI have a feeling that any type of crowd hanging around underneath the concourses will be asked to go to their seats or be ejected, at which point they will complain that the club are being unfair in not allowing them to create a hazard.That wouldn't happen at all though. A few thousand people aren't going to be ejected. They'll just wait for the eight minutes to elapse and let the people take their seats again. Trying to throw that many people out could get pretty ugly and create a far bigger hazard. Better to wait a few minutes and let it all blow over.Personally I wish the protesters well. Better that the fans start doing something than just meekly accepting whatever shit is served their way. We've been doing that for far too long.
I have a feeling that any type of crowd hanging around underneath the concourses will be asked to go to their seats or be ejected, at which point they will complain that the club are being unfair in not allowing them to create a hazard.
On the bright side, if all the Villa fans are in the concourse rather than their seats, it'll make spotting undercover daytripping gloryhunters much easier to spot.The stewards could send in snatch squads.
Well then I propose a booing for 4 minutes. 1 minute for each poor season we've had in a row. Or 11 minutes, 1 for each goal we've scored. Or boo non stop until the 82nd minute signifying the players of 82 turning in their graves at our plight.
Quote from: aj2k77 on January 14, 2015, 11:22:42 AMWell then I propose a booing for 4 minutes. 1 minute for each poor season we've had in a row. Or 11 minutes, 1 for each goal we've scored. Or boo non stop until the 82nd minute signifying the players of 82 turning in their graves at our plight. I can see an obvious flaw in the latter.
Is anyone else getting a bit tired of the general "stand up / applaud / take a swig of your Bovril / pick your nose / leave your seat / take your seat on x minutes where "x" is a number with some relevance to what ever they're referring to" thing?This protest is a stupid idea because, even if you can get over the whole thing of how it will be perceived and what it will actually achieve, the "8" doesn't even have any relevance to what they're complaining about.I am as depressed as the next man at the last four years and the increasing pointlessness of our situation, as well as the dreadful "leadership" shown by Lerner, but of those eight years, the first four were absolutely nothing to complain about.And I hereby predict that that "8 years they're saying, but what about the first 4" is precisely the thing these dimwits will get picked up on in the media, which will only increase external support (think Joey Barton last week) for Lambert.it all looks pretty fucking stupid to me, on a number of levels.
It's interesting that the media have only seemed to "get" the state of Villa under lambert after the fans gave him some stick last weekend. Before then, we were getting the usual, ignorant "he's doing a good job with his hands tied" type of lazy analysis from pundits. So, in that sense, protesting/booing etc can raise awareness. And, in my opinion, sitting quietly and meekly accepting the pile of absolute shite that we regularly get served makes it look to outsiders as if we don't want any change