Leicester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[silhillvilla]

Cuntflaps

[paul_e]

It's not the fans' job to find a new manager, I don't really get the idea that you can't complain and want a manager sacked unless you can suggest an alternative. It's just a way of shutting people up, IMO.

Agree totally, that has always puzzled me. It's not our job to come up with an alternative, there are any number of very well paid people at the club whose responsibility that is. That's like suggesting that those same people should sort out any of the poor management where we work. If you want the manager of your local NHS hospital sacked, you're allowed to say so without having to come up with a suggestion to replace him/her. So when is the twat leaving?

No, it isn't our job to find a new manager but neither is it our job to fire the current one. Yet everyone has an opininon on that.

Just as Lambert seems incapable of getting this team to play ay anything like a consistent enough level, so the owner appears incapable of making the right appointment. Sack him or keep him, I honestly don't see it making much difference other than by a complete fluke. It's all so completely underwhelming.

Sorry Chris but that's missing the most important  thing that sacking him would do which is give the club a 'bounce'.  Long term it might not solve anything but the fans, management and players are all utterly resigned to our fate and the only feasible way to jolt us out of that is a new manager and coaching team, something that gets the fans onside again and gets the players putting in a whole lot more effort than they are doing.

Even then a change of manager means we could have a complete fluke and get someone who just clicks and gets us on a run of decent results, no matter how small the chance of that happening is it's better than sticking with a guy who has repeatedly proven utterly incapable of getting us to have a run of form. 

[Dave Cooper please]

Cuntflaps

Ah come on, that's not a proper sentence.

[Malandro]

Cuntflaps

Ah come on, that's not a proper sentence.

But it was a very concise summary

[Ian.]

I'm in a good mood so I'm not going to read this thread.

Anyone care to sum it up in a sentence for me?

Do not read unless you want to spoil your mood.

[Walmley_Villa]

One thing that did strike me from watching the highlights again was that yesterday was the first time I've seen the players not putting as much effort in as they have previously. I'm just wondering if he's starting to lose some support in the dressing room. Despite some of the shoddy performances, you always got the impression that the players have wanted to play for him. Yesterday, the effort and desire did'nt seem to be there for me.

Lambert's body language just lately has been that of a defeated man. There's been no passion, he's just sat on the bench the whole time like McLeish did towards the end. He was asked about the fans' reactions in the interview and it was the same quotes that he always comes out with...'the fans pay their money blah blah...big football club blah blah'. Just the same tired garbage. He's supposed to be a leader who inspires, whether that be with the fans or the players. I can't see how he can possibly being doing either with his body language and template based responses.

I wonder if he feels left out to dry by the ownership. There is no support for him, they may have promised him funds this month that haven't materialised. Maybe that would explain it?

[Percy McCarthy]

Any ideas on what Lambert was writing in his notebook? I think it was a satirical cartoon of a certain religious icon.

That's what I've told Al Jazeera anyway.

What a crass , inopportune comment that is

Apologies.

No worries

It was an obvious attempt at humour which some people would appreciate, particularly today. When isn't humour either crass or potentially offensive to someone? What I tend to do is man up a bit and accept that I can't possibly share a harmonious view with everyone I come into contact with. I seldom make a point of bringing someone to task especially when it is abundantly clear their comments are without malice. Credit to you Percy for being so magnanimous.

Cheers. I just wanted to convey how much Lambert is annoying me, but Alex's comment caused me to reflect and think maybe it was a bit flippant considering people died.

[Clampy]

Cuntflaps

Where?

[Malandro]

I think the meeting at the end of the season was to to make it clear what was required: club is up for sale, there will be minimal funds, need stability, main task retain league status and if he could do this, as well as following company line - he had job security.

I may have done something similar if I was in Randy's shoes.

I'd be worried about my investment now though.

[mr underhill]

that might be true but still doesn't explain the gratuitous and monumentally silly decision to award a new four year contract after three games

[Boz]

I think the meeting at the end of the season was to to make it clear what was required: club is up for sale, there will be minimal funds, need stability, main task retain league status and if he could do this, as well as following company line - he had job security.

I may have done something similar if I was in Randy's shoes.

I'd be worried about my investment now though.

Absolutely.

If Fox is doing his job properly, he'd be making sure Lerner is aware of his diminishing investment value.  It's not too late now if a decision was made to let Lambert go, but who could they replace him with at short notice and who'd want the job?

[Malandro]

that might be true but still doesn't explain the gratuitous and monumentally silly decision to award a new four year contract after three games

I think that was done on acceptance of Lerner's terms - agreed before the season started

[tomd2103]

It's not the fans' job to find a new manager, I don't really get the idea that you can't complain and want a manager sacked unless you can suggest an alternative. It's just a way of shutting people up, IMO.

Agree totally, that has always puzzled me. It's not our job to come up with an alternative, there are any number of very well paid people at the club whose responsibility that is. That's like suggesting that those same people should sort out any of the poor management where we work. If you want the manager of your local NHS hospital sacked, you're allowed to say so without having to come up with a suggestion to replace him/her. So when is the twat leaving?

No, it isn't our job to find a new manager but neither is it our job to fire the current one. Yet everyone has an opininon on that.

Just as Lambert seems incapable of getting this team to play ay anything like a consistent enough level, so the owner appears incapable of making the right appointment. Sack him or keep him, I honestly don't see it making much difference other than by a complete fluke. It's all so completely underwhelming.

Sorry Chris but that's missing the most important  thing that sacking him would do which is give the club a 'bounce'.  Long term it might not solve anything but the fans, management and players are all utterly resigned to our fate and the only feasible way to jolt us out of that is a new manager and coaching team, something that gets the fans onside again and gets the players putting in a whole lot more effort than they are doing.

Even then a change of manager means we could have a complete fluke and get someone who just clicks and gets us on a run of decent results, no matter how small the chance of that happening is it's better than sticking with a guy who has repeatedly proven utterly incapable of getting us to have a run of form.

You only have to look across the city to see the positive impact a new manager can have on a team.  There is of course the risk that a new manager could make things worse (Solskjaer at Cardiff being an example), but I think we are fast approaching the point of having nothing to lose really.

[Steve67]

Fox just needs to make sure he maximises any potential sponsorship income, make the club run on a profit and allow the Manager to spend some of the profits, just like Ellis used to. Ellis was famous for not putting his own money in, Randy just needs to do the same, make the club run properly, nothing more, nothing less. That way, he can show as little interest as he wants and we know what we are gonna get. Unfortunately, the current Manager can't do his bit because Randy can't be bothered to do his. That said, I would like to start again with a new Manager and give the club a lift.

[Chris Smith]

It's not the fans' job to find a new manager, I don't really get the idea that you can't complain and want a manager sacked unless you can suggest an alternative. It's just a way of shutting people up, IMO.

Agree totally, that has always puzzled me. It's not our job to come up with an alternative, there are any number of very well paid people at the club whose responsibility that is. That's like suggesting that those same people should sort out any of the poor management where we work. If you want the manager of your local NHS hospital sacked, you're allowed to say so without having to come up with a suggestion to replace him/her. So when is the twat leaving?

No, it isn't our job to find a new manager but neither is it our job to fire the current one. Yet everyone has an opininon on that.

Just as Lambert seems incapable of getting this team to play ay anything like a consistent enough level, so the owner appears incapable of making the right appointment. Sack him or keep him, I honestly don't see it making much difference other than by a complete fluke. It's all so completely underwhelming.

Sorry Chris but that's missing the most important  thing that sacking him would do which is give the club a 'bounce'.  Long term it might not solve anything but the fans, management and players are all utterly resigned to our fate and the only feasible way to jolt us out of that is a new manager and coaching team, something that gets the fans onside again and gets the players putting in a whole lot more effort than they are doing.

Even then a change of manager means we could have a complete fluke and get someone who just clicks and gets us on a run of decent results, no matter how small the chance of that happening is it's better than sticking with a guy who has repeatedly proven utterly incapable of getting us to have a run of form. 

I think for every short term bounce there are instances where bugger all changes. That approach means we could end up paying off Lambert and the short term replacement and the inevitable churn of players who no longer fit. There has been no consistency in our appointments which is symptomatic of no plan, if we don't approach things in a more structured way next time we are just doomed to more of the same.