Are we, as supporters, doing enough???

[andyh]

Where we sit in the upper DE, there are 3 rows of seats that are 90% ST holders.
Because they are decent seats, the vast majority of those seats were occupied yesterday, but not a single 'regular' was in them....our group of 4 were the only ones.

Yesterday was the first 'real' opportunity for season ticket holders to decide if they wanted to go or not.
I think that tells its own story.   

[NeilH]

I have often asked myself the question which is ‘Were I still living in the UK, would I still have a season ticket?’ I personally could not fill the hole of a weekend without football and subsequently have a season ticket at my local and rather useless Dutch professional club. Nothing to me could replace the sights and sounds of a live game and certainly no telly subscription for Premier League games could come close. In some ways, having a season ticket has also given me a ready-made excuse not to go to Villa fans these days. Whereas I promised myself that I would get to VP at least 3-4 times as season no matter what, having live football here, plus the usual combination of cost and entertainment value have taken me down to 1 or 2 at maximum.

This then begs the question for me of whether I would still have a season ticket were I still living in the UK.  I was living in Shropshire, so I could have conceivably dropped my season ticket and taken one up with a non-league team; or even Shrewsbury Town. I could have decided to go with my mates to more Port Vale away games and increase my numbers of away grounds visited, or I could have decided to just drop it all together. However, the reality is that, in all likelihood the pull of the team I support would have been too strong to take me down a different path and I would have still been frequenting my seat and bemoaning bitterly the state of affairs.

I guess in conclusion, moving away has made it a damn sight easier to break the bond with the club and tut at those who still shell out hundreds each year to support us, no matter what.

[jollyjake]

I dont think she does have a point,sorry.
Randy Lerner is destroying our club,what is there to sing about,he single handedly has taken villa from a top 6 team,and lets be honest it should be better than that,to a regular relegation outfit.
teams like Swansea,west ham newcastle are talked about as big clubs,weve won more than all three put together.
the press laugh at us because of his attitude.
We got the Bednalls out,we got Ellis out and LERNER MUST BE NEXT before it is to late.

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He's only going to leave when the next billionaire turns up and there aren't too many of those floating around looking for middling Premier League outfits.

[Dave Cooper please]

I dont think she does have a point,sorry.
Randy Lerner is destroying our club,what is there to sing about,he single handedly has taken villa from a top 6 team,and lets be honest it should be better than that,to a regular relegation outfit.
teams like Swansea,west ham newcastle are talked about as big clubs,weve won more than all three put together.
the press laugh at us because of his attitude.
We got the Bednalls out,we got Ellis out and LERNER MUST BE NEXT before it is to late.

What do you plan to do then jollyjake?

[jollyjake]

not alot, as you say, the game has changed, like the rest i will sit and watch the demise of my club because we got the wrong billionaire,sad is,nt it.
lets just hope the end is quick,this dying by the season is sad to see.
I,m to old to bother now,but i can assure you silent ones this would not have been tolerated by us that bought the shares to keep the place afloat 40 years ago. i may even become a glory hunter its easier realy.
sad jollyjake

[dave.woodhall]

I'd argue we got the right billionaire at the wrong time and the fans got rid of neither Bendall nor Ellis. They both sold at a time and price of their choosing.

[Ian.]

I was going to say the same, Doug sold the club and done very well from it. He was not pushed out at all.

[jollyjake]

how old are you?
doug ,who i have the greatest respect for was voted out the first .before hed been to the  bluesnoses and derby.
look it up

[pauliewalnuts]

how old are you?
doug ,who i have the greatest respect for was voted out the first .before hed been to the  bluesnoses and derby.
look it up

Surely, the fact that he came back and stayed for several decades suggests that, even by referring to the first time, we didn't actually manage to "get him out" (ie force him out) at all, certainly not with any permanency.

It is also worth mentioning that there is no ability to vote anyone out when they are the only shareholder.

I don't have much respect left for Lerner, either, but there's really no point suggesting we can force him out, because we can't - how, for example, do we magic up another billionaire to buy him out?

[jollyjake]

SIr,
Know this there was a shareholders meeting held in the old witton rd stand(so many of us had shares).Doug was definately voted out and the Bednalls were voted in because they promised to keep Ron Saunders,who even you will agree was our best manager in living memory!

[pauliewalnuts]

SIr,
Know this there was a shareholders meeting held in the old witton rd stand(so many of us had shares).Doug was definately voted out and the Bednalls were voted in because they promised to keep Ron Saunders,who even you will agree was our best manager in living memory!

Yes, I know that.

I didn't say he wasn't definitely voted out, I am just pointing out that it didn't stay like that for too long, because he came back and haunted us for another few decades.

I also know a lot of people had shares, that's my other point - only one person has shares now, so I am not sure how you're imagining us getting Lerner out.

[jollyjake]

Well really its happening gradualy,the attendances are down,income will be down,when Lerner realises what he is doing and the more and more stay away,his asset is constantly devaluing,even he will realise if we stay away in enough numbers he has got to sell or go bust.

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Sell to who?

[fbriai]

Sincere question: is his asset constantly devaluing?

Hasn't the residual debt remaining from the high-spending era now been removed, along with the remaining high-earners? Coupled with the large increase in income from domestic and overseas broadcasting rights, with the inflation of the latter showing no sign of slowing any time soon either, surely suggests that, unless the club is relegated, the value of his asset should remain at least constant. Or am I wrong in thinking along these lines.