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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5835 on: November 17, 2016, 08:14:52 AM »
Looking like this might be tricky.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5836 on: November 17, 2016, 12:02:16 PM »
I thought we were poor at times today, particularly in the afternoon session.

It could have been different if Rashid had held on to the chance off Stokes. Victor mentioned on TMS that we were bowling to a plan/trap with short pitched bowling and two men out for the hook shot. Why have the weakest fielder in the side, or so Victor said, out on the boundary for the mis-timed hook shot when you're bowling to a plan? You really need your best catchers out there

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5837 on: November 17, 2016, 06:23:57 PM »
Spinners really poor today.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5838 on: November 17, 2016, 06:53:10 PM »
Woakes dropped?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5839 on: November 17, 2016, 06:54:59 PM »
Woakes dropped?

There was talk of him having a slight knee injury yesterday so I suspect they decided to rest him so they can rotate the bowlers a little.  I suspect Broad will miss at least 1 test as well.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5840 on: November 17, 2016, 08:24:05 PM »
Woakes dropped?

There was talk of him having a slight knee injury yesterday so I suspect they decided to rest him so they can rotate the bowlers a little.  I suspect Broad will miss at least 1 test as well.

There's no way that they would drop Woakes after the year he's had. He has a slight niggle so given his workload in tests and limited overs Cricket it makes sense to rest him.

Counting this test there's four tests between now and Christmas, with the next test in July next year. The scheduling has been stupid.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5841 on: November 18, 2016, 08:12:52 AM »
It was a good effort to knock them over for 450, but this looks pretty tricky.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5842 on: November 18, 2016, 09:21:14 AM »
A run out of Hameed is not what we needed.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5843 on: November 18, 2016, 10:00:51 AM »
Really really poor. We're in big trouble now. Duckett seems to have a real problem against off spinners, and Root's shot was just horrible.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5844 on: November 18, 2016, 10:21:12 AM »
Yet again it's the usual batting malaise of lose one lose several.
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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5845 on: November 18, 2016, 10:37:18 AM »
This is dismal. Once again we've lost half our team for less than 100. It's not good enough and this is not a horrible batting pitch or anything.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5846 on: November 18, 2016, 11:05:41 AM »
What pisses me off is that it's not technical issues that are getting us, it's a mental thing. Individually they can't handle the pressure of slow bowling and men around the bat, self-destruction inevitably follows.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5847 on: November 18, 2016, 11:09:02 AM »
I think it's a technical issue with Duckett, but in fairness in Bangladesh and India it's probably the first time he's faced quality off spin.

Root's dismissal and instigation of Hameed's run out were both really disappointing.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5848 on: November 18, 2016, 11:59:30 AM »
I guess the key question is how do you solve this?  I agree with PWA about Duckett, he's probably never faced spin like this before this winter, and a few others will only have a few matches against spin in genuinely spin friendly conditions so how do we give them the experience to fall back on?  That's been a key problem for years.

The most disappointing wicket for me was Cook, who really should've been able to handle the bowling they were giving him, yes it was a good spell of bowling but there was nothing new about it.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5849 on: November 18, 2016, 12:06:19 PM »
I'm not sure what you do other than literally set up some sort of academy in the sub-continent, but then you're still going to struggle to face the quality of spin you'd face at this level.

I think there is a mentality issue that keeps rearing its head. We tend to lose clusters of 3 or 4 wickets on a more regular basis than other countries.

It is going to take a miracle to save this game now.

 


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