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Author Topic: Club that cannot stop scoring lets yesterday's man go forth.  (Read 63025 times)

Offline joe_c

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #195 on: January 25, 2015, 12:14:42 AM »
I saw Simon Dawkins hit the bar in the highlights. Another gem we let slip through our grasp.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #196 on: January 25, 2015, 12:46:24 AM »
If it doesn't work out we haven't lost anything.
Well, if it doesn't work out we've lost the opportunity for a more effective player to be in the team in his place while it wasn't working out.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #197 on: January 25, 2015, 03:41:07 PM »
If it doesn't work out we haven't lost anything.
Well, if it doesn't work out we've lost the opportunity for a more effective player to be in the team in his place while it wasn't working out.

No because between now and the end of the season we are not signing another striker anyway.  I am talking about recalling Bent for that period not beyond.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #198 on: January 25, 2015, 05:29:40 PM »
If it doesn't work out we haven't lost anything.
Well, if it doesn't work out we've lost the opportunity for a more effective player to be in the team in his place while it wasn't working out.

No because between now and the end of the season we are not signing another striker anyway.  I am talking about recalling Bent for that period not beyond.

That doesn't change his point, though, does it?

If we recall Bent and use him between now and the end of the season, and it doesn't work out, that means we'll have had him occupying a place in the team whilst proving it isn't working out, when we could be playing someone else - someone who may do a decent job.

I'm glad for Bent seeing that he scored yesterday, but it is worth remembering, he was playing against Chesterfield. In his last appearances for us, and when he was on loan at Fulham, he looked utterly hopeless.

There'd be absolutely zero point in having him here till the end of the season. That horse has bolted.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #199 on: January 25, 2015, 06:17:53 PM »
If it doesn't work out we haven't lost anything.
Well, if it doesn't work out we've lost the opportunity for a more effective player to be in the team in his place while it wasn't working out.

No because between now and the end of the season we are not signing another striker anyway.  I am talking about recalling Bent for that period not beyond.
What do signings have to do with the price of fish?

If he's in the team then he is still taking up a space in the team that somebody else could be in.

So if he is wandering aimlessly round the pitch doing very little then we've lost the potential industry of a player who will do more than that.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #200 on: January 25, 2015, 06:26:32 PM »
I was a big fan of Bent but he has hardly made Lambert look stupid for letting him go out on loan.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #201 on: January 25, 2015, 06:28:08 PM »
I was a big fan of Bent but he has hardly made Lambert look stupid for letting him go out on loan.

One thing I'll say for Lambert is that when he signed Benteke and started playing him instead of Bent, the football establishment were all "what the hell is he doing? he's insane, Bent should be starting"

They were proved thoroughly wrong on that front.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #202 on: January 25, 2015, 06:44:45 PM »
If it doesn't work out we haven't lost anything.
Well, if it doesn't work out we've lost the opportunity for a more effective player to be in the team in his place while it wasn't working out.

No because between now and the end of the season we are not signing another striker anyway.  I am talking about recalling Bent for that period not beyond.
What do signings have to do with the price of fish?

If he's in the team then he is still taking up a space in the team that somebody else could be in.

So if he is wandering aimlessly round the pitch doing very little then we've lost the potential industry of a player who will do more than that.

But putting aside the fact that he scored today Weimann has been useless so far this season and so has Gabby.  So I would like to know who it is at the club currently who you think would be better.  Benteke needs support (even he is going through a dodgy spell) so I can think of worse ideas than giving him and Bent a few games together.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #203 on: January 25, 2015, 06:48:39 PM »
4 goals, 2 assists for Weimann this season, plus all the donkey work of chasing defenders etc. I have no confidence at all that Bent would have contributed more, and he certainly isn't capable of the donkey work. I'd like better than Weimann, but that isn't Bent.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #204 on: January 25, 2015, 06:52:04 PM »
So I would like to know who it is at the club currently who you think would be better.
Benteke central and in support two or three of Weimann, Gil, Grealish, pushing Delph further forward, pushing Bacuna further forward, Robinson...

All would be things I would go for over Bent at the moment.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #205 on: January 25, 2015, 06:53:22 PM »
I can't see where the argument is, he barely has match time outside of this division, not many managers want him, he has struggled everywhere he's been since his injury so why would we play him?

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #206 on: January 25, 2015, 06:53:30 PM »
Well I have been one of Weimann's supporters actually.  Agree he has not been good enough, but people forget that he is still a young player.  Think is Bent is an old school striker the sort who you don't sign for the donkey's work.  I think with things the way they are right now he might be worth a few games, but you disagree which is fair enough.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #207 on: January 25, 2015, 06:55:47 PM »
So I would like to know who it is at the club currently who you think would be better.
Benteke central and in support two or three of Weimann, Gil, Grealish, pushing Delph further forward, pushing Bacuna further forward, Robinson...

All would be things I would go for over Bent at the moment.

Chances are I would too, but history says than Lambert just isn't going to go down that route.  Maybe with Gil's performance today things might change, but of course we were only playing a championship side, he might revent back to type next week.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #208 on: January 25, 2015, 06:57:26 PM »
So I would like to know who it is at the club currently who you think would be better.
Benteke central and in support two or three of Weimann, Gil, Grealish, pushing Delph further forward, pushing Bacuna further forward, Robinson...

All would be things I would go for over Bent at the moment.

Chances are I would too, but history says than Lambert just isn't going to go down that route.  Maybe with Gil's performance today things might change, but of course we were only playing a championship side, he might revent back to type next week.
I think one thing that we can be pretty certain of is that Lambert isn't going to go down the route of playing Bent and Benteke as a partnership.

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Re: Club that cannot score lets its most prolific striker out on loan again
« Reply #209 on: January 25, 2015, 11:18:09 PM »
Derby finished the game with an ex-Villa front three of Bent, Dawkins and Jamie Ward.

How low have we sunk, etc.?

 


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