Aston Villa vs Sunderland Post-Match Thread

[Des Little]

I must have been watching a different game. I thought we acquitted ourselves well after the red card, and had the better chances to win it. I've certainly seen us play a lot worse than that second half. Take the point.

[PeterWithesShin]

And how I missed selling. Just before 1pm a minibus pulls up full of Sunderland chavs. Yelling abuse out the windows etc. They carried on after getting off, telling the few Villa fans around at that time to fuck off etc.
A couple of them say the same to me for some reason and then start giving it the come on hand signals. When I asked them to cross the road to say it none of them were quite so keen. To the total stranger who joined me, if you read this thanks for the backup. A day of glory for about a dozen Sunderland youth as they got fronted by two blokes. Fucking twats.

Some things don't change then. I can hear em in the pub back in sunderland "We had it with Villa's firm"   fkn chavs

I think they got even more deflated when me and the other bloke started laughing at them. But when you are still saying "come on then" with obligatory arm movements while walking backwards to get away, it is very funny. Problem is though, they are the kind of rats who will batter someone they catch on their own. Really were your typical chav wankers.

[ChicagoLion]

Thank god you were not reffing when I was playing, the Hutton Konchelski challenge is no where near as dangerous as this.
That is why he got a red.

So why did Konchesky get a red then? Both players jumped in one footed and both players landed on the ankle of the player on the receiving end.

Lets see if it gets rescinded.

[Toronto Villa]

Thank god you were not reffing when I was playing, the Hutton Konchelski challenge is no where near as dangerous as this.
That is why he got a red.

So why did Konchesky get a red then? Both players jumped in one footed and both players landed on the ankle of the player on the receiving end.

Lets see if it gets rescinded.

that's neither here nor there as it will be after the fact by an independent panel and not Villa fans discussing it. The argument is whether you thought it was a red or not. Look at the two challenges and if you still feel that way fair enough. I've seen both and I don't see why either deserved a red.

[SashasGrandad]

11 goals 21 points - half way through season

My guess is 10 goals for 19 more points and Lambert will be claiming manager of the year.

[Ron Manager]

11 goals 21 points - half way through season

My guess is 10 goals for 19 more points and Lambert will be claiming manager of the year.

Excellent!

[pauliewalnuts]

11 goals 21 points - half way through season

My guess is 10 goals for 19 more points and Lambert will be claiming manager of the year.

Excellent!

+ new 12 year contract.

[Ron Manager]

11 goals 21 points - half way through season

My guess is 10 goals for 19 more points and Lambert will be claiming manager of the year.

Excellent!
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+ new 12 year contract.

+a guaranteed knighthood.

[Dave]

Positives:

Grealish
Sanchez

Negatives:

Everything else

Sanchez looked a class apart, and Grealish very exciting.  The rest were absolute dross.

What else did you expect the centre-backs and goalkeeper to do to be upgraded from negative dross?

I'm sorry I couldn't be bothered to name them all individually, I've got sprouts to cook.

I don't think it's really necessary to apologise, but it's bit unfair on a defence that looked pretty comfortable to reduce them to the same level of performance as N'Zogbia and Weimann when they (Vlaar's dodgy backpass aside) looked very solid and did everything that could really have been expected of them.

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

Hopefully, this will mean Grealish gets his chance.  He's got to be a starter, in the Blackpool game at the very least.

[pauliewalnuts]

They weren't all dross, that is pretty obvious.

We didn't concede, and played 40 mins with ten men, so clearly, had they all been dross we'd have got zero points.

The problem isn't that it was a case of "he was dross" or "he was dross", it was that players who are supposed to either create or convert chances but have repeatedly shown an inability to do it this season (the likes of Cleverley, CNZ, Weimann) continued to do it today, against a truly abysmal side.

[olaftab]

I had a chat with Pat McMahon (the H&V poster not our famous number 8 ) at halftime and we agreed on several things. We were truly terrible so far. Sunderland were marginally more incompetent than us. Very quiet Villa park, even Sunderland fans. Why does N'Zobia keeps obliging the fullback by being forced inside and eventually losing the ball with no end product? Why doesn't he go for the line now and than if only to put some doubt in defenders mind? Why is Weimann positionally clueless and has very poor anticipation? Sanchez was our best player so far. Benteke is very ineffective. Delph has eliminated stupid reckless lunging tackles out of his game and fast becoming an efficient midfielder...ahaa how wrong were we 4 mins into the second half!
After the game we agreed on Sanchez being MotM and applauded the effort team put in to preserve a point and admired Grealish's honest go for goal attitude rather than N'Zogs dithering. Wondered why he is still not starting? Agreed that we can't play to dictate a game and only perform when in desperate mode. Wished each other a happy new year and  parted in different directions.
By the way Delph's red card and regular yellow cards will keep him at Villa Park as sort of teams he is looking to join will not touch him with a barge pole!

[Legion]

Hopefully, this will mean Grealish gets his chance.  He's got to be a starter, in the Blackpool game at the very least.

Totally agree. When he came on we looked like we were capable of producing something decent.

[SashasGrandad]

In the last 4 games - Benteke has had chances to score in the dying seconds of each game. Had he scored them we would be 6 points better off and up to 8th place. 3 of those games we had only 10 men for large parts of the games.

So despite playing absolutely awful football we are not far from a comfortable position. Just shows how awful the other teams are.

[Legion]

Positives:

Grealish
Sanchez

Negatives:

Everything else

Sanchez looked a class apart, and Grealish very exciting.  The rest were absolute dross.

What else did you expect the centre-backs and goalkeeper to do to be upgraded from negative dross?

I'm sorry I couldn't be bothered to name them all individually, I've got sprouts to cook.

I don't think it's really necessary to apologise, but it's bit unfair on a defence that looked pretty comfortable to reduce them to the same level of performance as N'Zogbia and Weimann when they (Vlaar's dodgy backpass aside) looked very solid and did everything that could really have been expected of them.

Fair enough.