Swansea City vs Aston Villa Post Match Thread

[supertom]

We're okay until the final third. I just think we still lack someone who can float between the lines and make something happen. The 5-3-2 should be used sparingly, and probably only against other sides playing it.
Cleverley is fucking shit. And that's a polite way of putting it.

Grealish made a difference when he came on I felt. He actually floated, looked to make things happen and got closer to Benteke. He also didn't look frightened to get in the box.

We're work in progress but I suppose in some regards we're getting better. We don't look as rushed or frightened on the ball. Still though, we're creating next to nothing. We didn't test their keeper until the 90th minute really. That said Guzan had very little to do beside pluck a freekick out of his net.

This goalscoring problem is huge though. Waiting for a moment of Benteke magic isn't a tactic really. Gabby and/or Weimann need replacing ASAP. Cleverley is poor. I'd give Grealish a run of games now. Give him a chance.

[edgysatsuma89]

I wonder if our brand spanking new and improved style of play will convince Delph and Vlaar to stay on? And for Benteke not to want to leave?

I'm not worried about going down this year, which is odd because I usually am. I'm already worried about next season. I know, futile and a waste of emotional energy.

I'll try and enjoy this new style of play he's figured out. He does sound happy with himself getting them to play a way which should have been the very fundamentals anyway. And before anyone says 'he can't win', and 'damned if he does ...', you're right. I'm not ashamed of it either. He shouldn't have been putting on a shower of shit for 2 years.

Let's hope he uses his new manual to get more crosses into the box. I think this invention will get Benteke loads of goals.

[silhillvilla]

I'm still a bit nervous about this season. Two wins now though would improve matters. My fear is anything happens to Benteke and we really are in the shite. These next 2 games 6 points and some goals please !!

[jackie maund]

The words excellent and losing don't go together

[OzVilla]

They do where Paul Lambert is concerned, constantly.

[silhillvilla]

The words excellent and losing don't go together

Or brilliant or fantastic ?! Unless you are Paul Lambert

[citizenDJ]

I really do think the criticism of Cleverley is harsh - he may not have been amazing, but I do believe that his presence has helped the team to develop this improving style of football. I hope we sign him permanently in January.

[brian green]

My problem, and it is my problem for which I blame nobody but myself, is that when Andi Weimann has a good, clear shot on goal to win a game for us, he throws his head back and slashes the ball into the Holte Upper.   When I see that I see Frankie Broome, Trevor Ford, Johnnie Dixon, Tommy Thomson, Gerry Hitchens, Peter McParland, Tony Hately, Andy Gray, Alan McInnally, Mark Walters, Brian Little, Gary Shaw, Tony Morley and Dwight Yorke burying the ball in the net.

The longer this pursuit of mid table mediocrity remains our only dream, more and more old dodgers like me will die off and only the recollection of rubbish will remain

[JUAN PABLO]

4 away goals so far this season.

Awful

[joe_c]

4 away goals so far this season.

Awful

Three away wins.

Decent

[Brend'Watkins]

I really do think the criticism of Cleverley is harsh - he may not have been amazing, but I do believe that his presence has helped the team to develop this improving style of football. I hope we sign him permanently in January.

I agree. I thought he was decent yesterday

[Ron Manager]

Although its been said a million times the only attribute both Weimann and Cleverley have in their favour is that they both put in a huge shift for the team, When you look at the likes of  N'Zogbia and Agbonlahor this goes down well with the support. Its not enough though. Lambert needs to bring in
a skilfull midfielder/winger someone along the lines of Ray Graydon. He also,as a matter of urgency, must get a partner for Benteke up front to take the pressure off the big man.

[Ron Manager]

My problem, and it is my problem for which I blame nobody but myself, is that when Andi Weimann has a good, clear shot on goal to win a game for us, he throws his head back and slashes the ball into the Holte Upper.   When I see that I see Frankie Broome, Trevor Ford, Johnnie Dixon, Tommy Thomson, Gerry Hitchens, Peter McParland, Tony Hately, Andy Gray, Alan McInnally, Mark Walters, Brian Little, Gary Shaw, Tony Morley and Dwight Yorke burying the ball in the net.

The longer this pursuit of mid table mediocrity remains our only dream, more and more old dodgers like me will die off and only the recollection of rubbish will remain

You appear to have forgotten Peter Withe, Brian......and Wally Hazelden!!

[Pete3206]

I really do think the criticism of Cleverley is harsh - he may not have been amazing, but I do believe that his presence has helped the team to develop this improving style of football. I hope we sign him permanently in January.

I am aghast at this comment. He did nothing of note.

Receive ball, run 5 yards, turn around with back facing the goal, pass the ball back. Repeat until substituted.

[brian green]

My omission of Peter Withe Ron was deliberate.   I have him filed in a different part of my treasure chest of Villa memories.   He is under G for Giant not G for Goals.   I also omitted JPA whom I adored because he too would throw his head back and slash at the ball in front of goal.

I was in my mid forties when we won the EC.   My guess is that most of the posters on H and V are about that age.  I just want them to enjoy what I enjoyed at their age.   It is their heritage and should not be sacrificed for some self defeating mission to balance the books and arse lick round the owner.

The penny of attacking to defend a lead seems (I hope) to have dropped.   What we now need is the penny to drop about investing money in good players being good business, in bad players is bad business.

It is like that advert for VW cars where the dad is choosing a shark cage for his son to go diving.   He rents the rickety one because it is cheap,  The moral is simple.   You get what you pay for.