Swansea City vs Aston Villa Post Match Thread

[Ron Manager]

Watching Ashley Young this morning sending in crosses of velocity and accuracy this morning I kept thinking Benteke should be on the end of those scoring with consumate ease.... every time!

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The passing stats are interesting. Given we dominated possession it won't surprise anybody that we made more short passes than Swansea, but also significantly fewer long balls, bu the criticism that we only pass sideways at the back isn't accurate.

391 short passes were made forwards, compared to 325 and 301 passes left or right, with most passes made in the second third of the pitch, 354 compared to 160 in the final third (that includes Weimann's bloody rubbish cross when it was easier to pick out any one of three Villa players!) and 118 in the defensive third.

Clearly we need to mix the options that supply Benteke up, although we did create enough to win the game, but it does beg a question; how or why has it taken so long to start playing football, when we can out Swansea the "South Wales Barca" after a few weeks at it? The players are capable and clearly always have been. It's a bit odd really.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Whilst I can't enthuse Lambertesquely about our performance, I do think that a fundamental change is in place and if we'd have picked up a point yesterday it would've been a lot easier to see. 

[silhillvilla]

I think it's more a case Swansea got their goal and then sat back and let us have some meaningless possession fully knowing we'd do feck all with it whilst they conserved some batteries for Sunday.
11 goals in 18 games ! Enough said.

[andyh]

I think it's more a case Swansea got their goal and then sat back and let us have some meaningless possession fully knowing we'd do feck all with it whilst they conserved some batteries for Sunday.
11 goals in 18 games ! Enough said.

Indeed!
They pretty much did a (better) Villa on us.

[silhillvilla]

I think it's more a case Swansea got their goal and then sat back and let us have some meaningless possession fully knowing we'd do feck all with it whilst they conserved some batteries for Sunday.
11 goals in 18 games ! Enough said.

Indeed!
They pretty much did a (better) Villa on us.

We got mugged off i think by Gary Monks tactics.
We are busy lauding it up for out passing / possessioning Swansea and they walk off with 3 easy points and a clean sheet .

[Chris Smith]

I think it's more a case Swansea got their goal and then sat back and let us have some meaningless possession fully knowing we'd do feck all with it whilst they conserved some batteries for Sunday.
11 goals in 18 games ! Enough said.

We'd already gone close twice before they scored so I don't think that suggestion holds any water. In fact for any manager to adopt that approach with a striker as good as Benteke playing against them would be downright stupidity.

We clearly have an issue with not scoring enough goals but we are now at least playing in a way that gets into positions were we might create the opportunities.

[silhillvilla]

Are we actually improving / creating more though ? In 18 games I've seen no real difference ?
Game 1-Stoke away - 37%, 7 shots (1 on target) 8 corners
Game 3 - hull home - 55%, 9 shots (3 on target) 7 corners
Game 9- QPR away - 65%, 15 shots (6 on target) 4 corners
Game 16 - WBA away - 51%, 7 shots (2 on target) 2 corners
Game 18- Swansea away 57% 11 shots (3 on target ) 0 corners

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Swansea were forced back second half because of how we played. We didn't have meaningless possession, we were just wasteful in the final third.

[Chris Smith]

Are we actually improving / creating more though ? In 18 games I've seen no real difference ?
Game 1-Stoke away - 37%, 7 shots (1 on target) 8 corners
Game 3 - hull home - 55%, 9 shots (3 on target) 7 corners
Game 9- QPR away - 65%, 15 shots (6 on target) 4 corners
Game 16 - WBA away - 51%, 7 shots (2 on target) 2 corners
Game 18- Swansea away 57% 11 shots (3 on target ) 0 corners

Those stats only tell a partial story. Yesterday, for instance, we got into good positions behind the full back only to waste the cross by putting it too close to the keeper or both strikers going far when it needed one of them to get across the front.

I think from where we were a few weeks ago when there was almost universal despair with the way we were playing we are now seeing a more purposeful approach. It is what most of us were asking for, pass and move rather than hit and hope.

[olaftab]

I think it's more a case Swansea got their goal and then sat back and let us have some meaningless possession fully knowing we'd do feck all with it whilst they conserved some batteries for Sunday.
11 goals in 18 games ! Enough said.

Yes you are bang on as usual. They did give us (obviously given not taken as no one is worse than Villa) meaningless possession however just forgot that on another day in that period they could have and should have conceded 4 goals but hey let's not bother with how the match was played out when it's more miserable to turn around any stat to rubbish our team.

[Steve kirk]

Really thought we could nick a point yesterday and we came very close, I think there is a tiny bit of improvement in our overall play but it is not being turned into anything meaningful, 11 goals in 18 league games is a very sobering stat, Gabby's suspension will probably lead to the return of Nzogbia rather than Grealish as Lambert is always conservative with his selections, maybe we will get the playmaker we need in January but if not I expect us to hang around 14th looking over our shoulders till the end of the season.

[pauliewalnuts]

I was reading a Swansea forum last night and there seemed to be more than a few of them saying they were lucky to win, and could easily have lost.

[silhillvilla]

I was reading a Swansea forum last night and there seemed to be more than a few of them saying they were lucky to win, and could easily have lost.

That's fair enough then and perhaps on this occasion I'm being a bit harsh on the lads. Just getting so fed up of all these games where we rarely threaten and draw a blank.

[olaftab]

Didn't know you could read Welsh?