McLeish Football Focus interview Sat 6th Dec

[Clampy]

Changing the subject for a moment, this is the first time I've watched Football Focus for years and it'll be a while before I watch it again. Why couldn't they show the midweek goals from the proper angle instead of trying to be clever and showing them close up? It ruined half of them.

[Exeter 77]

Even though there have been a collection of low points over the last four seasons the eight months under Billy McNeill were the worst time to be a Villa fan over last 40 years.

[richard moore]

Changing the subject for a moment, this is the first time I've watched Football Focus for years and it'll be a while before I watch it again. Why couldn't they show the midweek goals from the proper angle instead of trying to be clever and showing them close up? It ruined half of them.

Did they play them to music as well which gets right on my you know whats? With cut aways to images of managers on the touchline and fans in the stand so you never actually get to see the goals properly in their entirety?

[saunders_heroes]

Changing the subject for a moment, this is the first time I've watched Football Focus for years and it'll be a while before I watch it again. Why couldn't they show the midweek goals from the proper angle instead of trying to be clever and showing them close up? It ruined half of them.

Same here. I watched it the other week for the first time in God knows how long and really irritated me that they showed goals from stupid angles. No one's interested in the camera next to the corner flag, just show the goals from the correct angle. It's obvious an idea thought up by some smart arse straight out of uni.

[enigma]

I've said this many times before, but after Bradford scored at Villa Park I witnessed the worst tactics I've ever seems from a Villa manager in my life and I'm not exaggerating. I've seen better tactics between a game of 6 year olds on a playground.

I'm over fifty and the period under Lambert (and latterly Lerner) has been the worst ever for me. At least when it was shit before, you knew Doug would get rid and it was oddly exciting because of that. This unremitting mediocrity we now serve up season after season with no change has left me clinging on dear memories of previous decades

Couldn't agree more and the fact Doug's reign is looking not so bad is some indictment on the current lot.

[enigma]

Changing the subject for a moment, this is the first time I've watched Football Focus for years and it'll be a while before I watch it again. Why couldn't they show the midweek goals from the proper angle instead of trying to be clever and showing them close up? It ruined half of them.

That's been a real bugbear of mine for a few years now. You can never quite see the build up to the goal or the finish due to the swoopy, zoomed in cameras and quick jump cuts. So frustrating.

[Gregorys Boy]

The lowest point for me was that Xmas under lambert that went 0-8, 0-4 and 0-3 then the cup exits v millwall and the Bradford debacle.
That period for me topped any of the mcleish travesties.

But as I already pointed out McLeish had a slightly better squad.  Don't forget that run under Lambert was when Benteke was still finding his feet.  The idea that a manager should be sacked half way through his first season just shows how short term the modern football fan's mindset is.

Spot on. He should have been sacked there and then but he was allowed to stay and fester.

Exactly, that was far in excess that anything McLeish managed to do

[eamonn]

Annoying highlights angles aside, anyone know what Fookin'Eck had to say about his time up the Villa?

[dave shelley]

Reckoned he would have turned it around had he been given time.  Thought in hindsight that it was probably not the right move for him.  There would have been a minimum of 30,000 at Villa Park who could have told him that.

[Mister E]

Even though there have been a collection of low points over the last four seasons the eight months under Billy McNeill were the worst time to be a Villa fan over last 40 years.

well, I've be pondering that. The 8 months ended in relegation, which was pretty bad. But it was only 8 months, and we quickly found redemption with SGT.
This run of four seasons has been unremittingly bad, it has sucked the spirit out of many  fans and established a new level of ongoing mediocrity that has become the norm. After two Wembley visits in 2010, we have had nothing to raise our spirits.
So, in 50 years of supporting Villa, I'd say this period is the worst, and it's nadir of 0-8, 0-4, 0-3 has to be the 'eye of the storm'.

[silhillvilla]

Does anyone have access to the billy McNeil season stats ? Think his first league game we won 1-0 at highfield rd which was a top day out , then it quickly turned to rat shit.

[Legion]

Some stats

[PeterWithesShin]

So, in 50 years of supporting Villa, I'd say this period is the worst, and it's nadir of 0-8, 0-4, 0-3 has to be the 'eye of the storm'.

It's really worse than being relegated to division 3, 8 straight years out the top flight, 14 straight years of never finishing higher than 15th and managing 3 top 10 finishes in 20 years?

[silhillvilla]

Some stats

Cheers .

[PeterWithesShin]

Does anyone have access to the billy McNeil season stats ? Think his first league game we won 1-0 at highfield rd which was a top day out , then it quickly turned to rat shit.

04.10-A Coventry 1-0
11.09-H Southampton 3-1
18.10-A Watford 2-4
25.10-H Newcastle 2-0
01.11-H Leicester 2-0
08.11-A Manchester C 1-3
15.11-H Chelsea 0-0
22.11-A West Ham 1-1
29.11-H Arsenal 0-4
06.12-A Sheffield W 1-2
13.12-H Manchester U 3-3
20.12-A Oxford 2-2
26.12-H Charlton 2-0
27.12-A Chelsea 1-4
01.01-A Everton 0-3
03.01-H Nottingham 0-0
24.01-A Tottenham 0-3
07.02-H Queen's PR 0-1
14.02-A Luton 1-2
21.02-H Liverpool 2-2
28.02-A Norwich 1-1
04.03-H Wimbledon 0-0
07.03-A Newcastle 1-2
21.03-A Southampton 0-5
25.03-H Watford 1-1
28.03-H Coventry 1-0
04.04-H Manchester C 0-0
11.04-A Leicester 1-1
18.04-H Everton 0-1
20.04-A Charlton 0-3
25.04-H West Ham 4-0
02.05-A Arsenal 1-2
04.05-H Sheffield W 1-2
09.05-A Manchester U 1-3