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Offline godzvilla

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #420 on: January 04, 2015, 08:17:30 PM »
Not sure if I heard correctly but the Commentator ( whats happened to Woodwind ? ) on AVTV this afternoon said that  Gary McAllister may be the new assistant manager . Anybody else hear this and was,nt Gabby once quoted as saying that Houllier’s and  McAllister almost forced him to quit the club ?.................Godzvilla!.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #421 on: January 04, 2015, 08:20:41 PM »
McAllisters record when managing us was good. I think Gabby didnt like him because they had them drill set pieces over and over if I recall?

To be honest Gabby being concerned about a new assistant making him work harder wouldn't be the end of the world.


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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #422 on: January 04, 2015, 09:46:49 PM »
Not sure if I heard correctly but the Commentator ( whats happened to Woodwind ? ) on AVTV this afternoon said that  Gary McAllister may be the new assistant manager . Anybody else hear this and was,nt Gabby once quoted as saying that Houllier’s and  McAllister almost forced him to quit the club ?.................Godzvilla!.

Every cloud, then.

Offline steffo

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #423 on: January 04, 2015, 10:03:26 PM »
Because Houllier & McAllister knew Gabby cant score goals often enough. Hence Bent.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #424 on: January 04, 2015, 11:15:39 PM »
Houllier's gripe with Gabby was that he was carrying too much weight and it would affect his game.  MON had encouraged Gabby to bulk up so that he could play as a lone striker.

Houllier knew his stuff, it was just that he didn't have any tact when supporters were concerned.  Often wonder how it would have worked out if he hadn't had the health problems.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #425 on: January 04, 2015, 11:20:27 PM »
Because Houllier & McAllister knew Gabby cant score goals often enough. Hence Bent.

i find the fact that Gabby has recently been given a four year contract to be really a good example of where this club is these days.

Let's be honest, he's at the very best bog standard, average. How many other clubs would pick him week in, week out?

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #426 on: January 04, 2015, 11:22:15 PM »
Because Houllier & McAllister knew Gabby cant score goals often enough. Hence Bent.

i find the fact that Gabby has recently been given a four year contract to be really a good example of where this club is these days.

Let's be honest, he's at the very best bog standard, average. How many other clubs would pick him week in, week out?

On the down slope of his career and living off the past.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #427 on: January 04, 2015, 11:24:47 PM »
Because Houllier & McAllister knew Gabby cant score goals often enough. Hence Bent.

i find the fact that Gabby has recently been given a four year contract to be really a good example of where this club is these days.

Let's be honest, he's at the very best bog standard, average. How many other clubs would pick him week in, week out?

On the down slope of his career and living off the past.

We don't paticularly use him very well though. He's actually good in the air, so get a wide man in and whip some crosses in for, him or even stick him out wide himself.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #428 on: January 05, 2015, 09:13:15 PM »
Considering some of his successors I find myself longing for the days when Gary McAllister was assistant manager. We could do better, but given Lambert's track record in picking assistants I'll be happy if we don't do worse.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #429 on: January 06, 2015, 12:59:52 AM »
Houllier's gripe with Gabby was that he was carrying too much weight and it would affect his game.  MON had encouraged Gabby to bulk up so that he could play as a lone striker.

Houllier knew his stuff, it was just that he didn't have any tact when supporters were concerned.  Often wonder how it would have worked out if he hadn't had the health problems.

I was pleased to see him gone back then as we were poor for a lot of that season, but in hindsight I've often wondered whether he should have been given more time, even his health had meant him moving into a Director of Football role.  There was clearly an attitude problem amongst players at the club (there probably still is) and from stories we hear, Houllier had identified culprits and would have moved them on that summer.  It is also rumoured that he had lined up the likes of Cabaye to come in, so it would have been interesting to see what would have happened.   

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #430 on: January 06, 2015, 01:17:21 AM »
MON had encouraged Gabby to bulk up so that he could play as a lone striker.

MON knew nothing about it. My guess is it was Capello who likes strong, powerful strikers who gave Gabby the idea.

Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #431 on: January 06, 2015, 01:40:58 AM »
MON had encouraged Gabby to bulk up so that he could play as a lone striker.

MON knew nothing about it. My guess is it was Capello who likes strong, powerful strikers who gave Gabby the idea.
I seem to recall that Gabby mentioned JPA played a big part in his decision to bulk up, either by advice or example. He said he was fed up of being thrown around by John Terry and Vidic.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #432 on: January 06, 2015, 07:15:15 AM »
fat lot of good it did him though, twice as big but half the player he was

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #433 on: January 27, 2015, 10:00:11 AM »
Just been reading an interview with Fran Rooney who was high up in Irish football circles a few years ago. This is from Nov 2013.

'The biggest thing that upsets him so much is lack of standards in other individuals'   I rather get the feeling that a dedicated professional
  like Roy Keane would be at odds with  many of the people he has to work with. It makes you wonder who was not fully pulling their weight
to get our club out of trouble.

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