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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #255 on: November 29, 2014, 12:04:38 PM »
Frankly, I think the common reaction to get back someone - anyone - from the Villa past to manage us now is a bit Newcastle if not, Christ forbid, a bit Liverpool. What we actually need is someone completely different to anything we've had before.

Offline citizenDJ

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #256 on: November 29, 2014, 12:30:15 PM »
What we actually need is someone completely different to anything we've had before.

I do agree with this, but it would also need to be backed by a substantial bit of spending, as we have a squad which is dismally lacking in quality - it would take a new coach of extraordinary ability to get the majority of our cloggers playing a different, more modern brand of football.

So with that in mind, we're in a bit of a bind. I suppose the best we could aim for is a kind of middle ground, someone who can get a team playing some good stuff, but can also make use of some of the more, er, agricultural players we have until a significant turnaround in playing staff has happened.

God knows who that could be, though.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #257 on: November 29, 2014, 12:52:36 PM »
He has to be. It would be 9 games without a win, 2 goals, 2 points from 27. It could not actually be any worse than that.
Without trying to sound too pedantic, it actually could be worse than that ;-) - the fact that those 2 points came in the last couple of games are likely to viewed by some as "turning things around", which is a worry as it is nothing of the sort.
This is not the way to attract new owners, who would want to buy into this shambles now..?

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #258 on: November 29, 2014, 08:47:23 PM »
He has to be. It would be 9 games without a win, 2 goals, 2 points from 27. It could not actually be any worse than that.
Without trying to sound too pedantic, it actually could be worse than that ;-) - the fact that those 2 points came in the last couple of games are likely to viewed by some as "turning things around", which is a worry as it is nothing of the sort.
This is not the way to attract new owners, who would want to buy into this shambles now..?

The last 3 results are just prolonging the agony for me.
If we had lost them all and Lambert was sacked there is a chance we could make up the points quickly with a couple of wins.
I find it really difficult to even contemplate wanting Villa to lose but must admit I steeled myself for it last Monday against Southampton in the vain hope we would turn on him at home. This is a slow death.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #259 on: November 29, 2014, 08:53:31 PM »
I think it is the away fans WW who will turn on him first.   Once they have had enough of him they will let him know loud and clear and the apathy which seems to hang over VP like a shroud will get blown away.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #260 on: November 29, 2014, 09:03:35 PM »
Frankly, I think the common reaction to get back someone - anyone - from the Villa past to manage us now is a bit Newcastle if not, Christ forbid, a bit Liverpool. What we actually need is someone completely different to anything we've had before.

Agreed. We need someone like Jurgen Klinsmann. Someone of that status to invigorate the club from top to bottom. This kind of leader costs money. We dont have the money required.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #261 on: November 29, 2014, 09:22:16 PM »
We would be lucky to get David O'Leary back, let alone Klinsmann, club is being run like a joke and what manager would want to come to us with the club in limbo as it is?

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #262 on: November 29, 2014, 09:39:38 PM »
I think it is the away fans WW who will turn on him first.   Once they have had enough of him they will let him know loud and clear and the apathy which seems to hang over VP like a shroud will get blown away.

Frankly, I think the common reaction to get back someone - anyone - from the Villa past to manage us now is a bit Newcastle if not, Christ forbid, a bit Liverpool. What we actually need is someone completely different to anything we've had before.

Ah you mean someone who is tactically astute, can get the players doing the basics like passing and moving and controlling, who knows how to entertain the crowd  bit. and how to win games, someone who has a plan A, B, C and D and can adapt to use whichever suits the situation.  Preferably no more dour, dull and talentless Scots and other Celts, and no English chancers who talk a good game but know fack all.  In short, a foreign coach with a bit of pedigree would be nice.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #263 on: November 29, 2014, 11:20:03 PM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/roy-keanes-shock-aston-villa-4719930

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Roy Keane walked out on Aston Villa to the sound of cheering from Paul Lambert’s dressing-room, writes Neil Moxley in the Sunday People.

Villa’s players broke into applause when the Irishman’s exit was confirmed on Friday morning.

But that goodwill among Lambert’s players was not shared by the 4,100 travelling fans at Turf Moor, who called for their manager’s head during and after the 1-1 draw against struggling Burnley on Saturday.

The Scot was jeered by his own supporters after Danny Ings’ late penalty cancelled out Joe Cole’s first-half opener.

But 24 hours earlier it was a different story when Keane announced his departure, citing a need to spend more time with his family.

Keane only joined Paul Lambert's backroom team in July
The 43-year-old former Sunderland and Ipswich manager said that doubling up his commitments with Villa and Ireland was proving too much for him.

And although he walked and was not sacked by Villa boss Lambert, the club’s first-team squad were still happy to see the back of him.

Matters came to a head after Villa’s toothless defeat to QPR at Loftus Road last month. Manchester United legend Keane rounded on several Villa players, calling them out after a pitiful display during the loss.

 
Insiders have confirmed to Sunday People Sport that Keane suffered “a real head loss” following their no-show in west London.

But it was Lambert whose head was being demanded by the supporters as large sections of the fans made their feelings known in Lancashire.

The Villans' boss did not duck the issue, and said: “I heard it. These guys pay their money and I have absolutely no problem with it. This football club is massive and the expectancy level is huge.”

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #264 on: November 29, 2014, 11:24:09 PM »
So Keane "lost it" after the QPR game ?
Who can blame him, it was a pitiful showing from the players that night.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #265 on: November 29, 2014, 11:35:54 PM »
When the manager constantly makes excuses publicly maybe Keane saw through it and called them out. Lambert has been defending the players constantly and they've become soft mentally. Keane likely told them all exactly what he thought of them and things deteriorated between him, the squad and manager quickly thereafter.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #266 on: November 29, 2014, 11:42:36 PM »
Agreed, if true it appears that Keane was just saying what we are all thinking but McThickie and his players didn't like it.

I'd wish nothing but footballing ill on the lot of them if they weren't wearing Villa shirts.

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #267 on: November 30, 2014, 12:04:16 AM »
Yep, its fair to say the scowley faced bastard definately had a point about the players. Bit of a shame he's gone in that respect, i can't see anyone else at the club being quite so brutally honest about how wank they are. Having some of them pinned against the wall with his hand around their throat wouldn't have been too over the top after QPR.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #268 on: November 30, 2014, 12:16:35 AM »
Without stating the obvious something is very wrong at the club. Faulkner , Doogan and Keane gone in recent weeks, senior players winding down contracts . The club is simply a shambles.

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Re: Roy Keane has left
« Reply #269 on: November 30, 2014, 02:15:44 PM »
If our delicate wallflowers cannot stand being given a bollocking after a poor performance, the sooner they follow Lambert out the door the better.

 


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