I'm not surprised he's been loaned out, after all we have an embarrassment of riches up front.
Have his kind of player really been that popular down the Villa? you could argue that we have rarely seen his kind of goalscorer in my time, since the early to mid 80s, but we always seem to favour graft over guile, not that there is owt wrong with that.
Quote from: bob on November 26, 2014, 09:48:28 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on November 26, 2014, 01:18:09 AMAn enigma almost from the start. Him at £18 million was "overpriced" yet in the same window £50 million for Torres and £35 million for Andy Carroll were perfectly fine. He ht the ground running, scored goals at a rate we hadn't seen since Andy Gray at his peak, yet for some reason he was never idolised by our supporters like he should have been. What was even stranger was that somehow, during his first summer, we started saying he cost too much as well. He was always about to be sold, right up until the injury which in hindsight ruined his career. And if he hadn't got injured we would probably have finished a few places higher up the league and McLeish may well have stayed. The best natural goalscorer England could boast, finished at thirty. He was very popular when he first arrived. Although he scored at a very fine rate he didn't do it for long enough to be idolised, as you put it. It became apparent too quickly that we didn't have the players to supply him with enough service, and that he wasn't going to do a whole lot for the team other than goal hang.The bit about him being "always about to be sold" is just wrong.Look back at the transfer speculation every window between his arrival and his injury. He must have had at least six medicals at Liverpool for a start.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on November 26, 2014, 01:18:09 AMAn enigma almost from the start. Him at £18 million was "overpriced" yet in the same window £50 million for Torres and £35 million for Andy Carroll were perfectly fine. He ht the ground running, scored goals at a rate we hadn't seen since Andy Gray at his peak, yet for some reason he was never idolised by our supporters like he should have been. What was even stranger was that somehow, during his first summer, we started saying he cost too much as well. He was always about to be sold, right up until the injury which in hindsight ruined his career. And if he hadn't got injured we would probably have finished a few places higher up the league and McLeish may well have stayed. The best natural goalscorer England could boast, finished at thirty. He was very popular when he first arrived. Although he scored at a very fine rate he didn't do it for long enough to be idolised, as you put it. It became apparent too quickly that we didn't have the players to supply him with enough service, and that he wasn't going to do a whole lot for the team other than goal hang.The bit about him being "always about to be sold" is just wrong.
An enigma almost from the start. Him at £18 million was "overpriced" yet in the same window £50 million for Torres and £35 million for Andy Carroll were perfectly fine. He ht the ground running, scored goals at a rate we hadn't seen since Andy Gray at his peak, yet for some reason he was never idolised by our supporters like he should have been. What was even stranger was that somehow, during his first summer, we started saying he cost too much as well. He was always about to be sold, right up until the injury which in hindsight ruined his career. And if he hadn't got injured we would probably have finished a few places higher up the league and McLeish may well have stayed. The best natural goalscorer England could boast, finished at thirty.
We had them in the cup in the 2004/5 era ? I think ?
Quote from: silhillvilla on November 26, 2014, 05:24:28 PMWe had them in the cup in the 2004/5 era ? I think ?It may have been more recently than that. Have a feeling we won 2-1 at Villa Park Nicky Forster scored for them.
I really do question Bents attitude and motivation these days, and most definitely his fitness. However I think a large part of him seeming so sombre about playing football is down to Lamberts treatment of him. Bent could certainly do more and should be fitter, but if he is half assing it for this manager, I don't entirely blame him. That said Benty kept us up for two seasons, in just half a season of each. I think he proved valuable all told. But for his goals in Houlliers run in and McLeish first half season, we'd have been absolutely done for. And if you recall in McLeish's season there was a stat that came out saying Bent had the fewest touches of any Premier League regular in the league. Yet he still hit 9 league goals in 22 games that season. I like Bent, and part of me still wants him to come back in a month and finally hit form again, but it's a shame to see someone at just 30, playing like he's a 38 year old desperately clinging on to the last few months of league football he'll play in League 2. He should still be in his pomp. The funny thing is though. Get Pulis in by January, and Bent back from his loan looking sharper and fitter, and I think he'd possibly start hammering in goals, because he'd be getting service.