The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread

[Dave]

Maybe the deal with him was initially meant to be permanent, but with all the fucking about and toing and fro-ing, the only way they could do it in time was to structure it that way? It wouldn't be the first time a deal had happened like that.

It wouldn't, but as per my post above - those deals tend to be announced as permanent at the next available opportunity (I seem to remember Valencia moving to Wigan was like that).

If we've agreed to pay the fee but we just ran out of time in August and the player wants to join us on said three or four year deal, why is he still on loan and not permanently signed already?

[dave.woodhall]

I'm sure I read somewhere that if we want to keep him we have to pay them.

So if we choose not to pay any money for him and he finds himself without a club or a contract in July - we are not allowed to sign him?

How would that work?

Paulie's scenario is plausible - but unlikely in my opinion, as it only works is there is the agreement of all three parties that it is definitely happening. And if that were the case, I don't see why it just wouldn't have become official on January 1st.

As I said above, I don't know for sure but it isn't impossible that if we sign him in the summer there was a clause in the loan deal that says we have to pay them a fee.

[ciggiesnbeer]

I don't think Cleverly has been shit. Just "eh".  I put him in a similar category to Westwood. Ok, and potentially can improve but not worth spending much money on.

Lambert seems to rate them both for doing the "hard work nobody notices". I certainly don't notice it, then again I do not have a trained eye I guess. I do notice players like Weimann putting in a shift every game though.

[pauliewalnuts]

Maybe the deal with him was initially meant to be permanent, but with all the fucking about and toing and fro-ing, the only way they could do it in time was to structure it that way? It wouldn't be the first time a deal had happened like that.

It wouldn't, but as per my post above - those deals tend to be announced as permanent at the next available opportunity (I seem to remember Valencia moving to Wigan was like that).

If we've agreed to pay the fee but we just ran out of time in August and the player wants to join us on said three or four year deal, why is he still on loan and not permanently signed already?

Because we ran out of time in August. There's no reason why it shouldn't be formally a loan till the end of the season (that being the route they took to get the deal through in August) turning into permanent in the summer, where in actual fact, there's a signed contract in place between the two clubs and the player.

I'm not saying I think that is the case, I don't know if it is, I hope it isn't, but it strikes me as a plausible state of affairs.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't think Cleverly has been shit. Just "eh".  I put him in a similar category to Westwood. Ok, and potentially can improve but not worth spending much money on.

Westwood, for all his faults, strikes me as a significantly better player than Cleverley.

[ciggiesnbeer]

I don't think Cleverly has been shit. Just "eh".  I put him in a similar category to Westwood. Ok, and potentially can improve but not worth spending much money on.

Westwood, for all his faults, strikes me as a significantly better player than Cleverley.

Big shout. Certainly he is consistent I will give him that.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

I don't think Cleverly has been shit. Just "eh".

Do you mean "meh" or "eh?"

[ciggiesnbeer]

I don't think Cleverly has been shit. Just "eh".

Do you mean "meh" or "eh?"

I think more "eh?". Not that impressive but enough there for me to believe he could surprise us in a good way in the future.

[silhillvilla]

Does the window close at midnight tonight and are sky doing their usual hyperbole show or as it's the sabbath will they give it a miss ?

[Lastfootstamper]

Does the window close at midnight tonight and are sky doing their usual hyperbole show or as it's the sabbath will they give it a miss ?

Shuts tomorrow.

[silhillvilla]

Does the window close at midnight tonight and are sky doing their usual hyperbole show or as it's the sabbath will they give it a miss ?

Shuts tomorrow.

Midnight Feb 1?

[exigo]

Does the window close at midnight tonight and are sky doing their usual hyperbole show or as it's the sabbath will they give it a miss ?

Shuts tomorrow.

Correction. Slams shut tomorrow.

[Clampy]

Does the window close at midnight tonight and are sky doing their usual hyperbole show or as it's the sabbath will they give it a miss ?

Shuts tomorrow.

Midnight Feb 1?

No, tomorrow.

[silhillvilla]

Midnight Feb 2 ?

[Steve67]

11pm Monday is when Jim White gets put back in his cupboard and the window shuts. Arsenal, of course, have the extra couple of days to sign their players!