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Author Topic: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread  (Read 424508 times)

Offline paul_e

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1305 on: January 21, 2015, 11:11:29 PM »
Like Tom Cleverley....

Poor old Tom seems out of his depth in the EPL not to mind international level

That'll be his lack of pace not his technical ability.  He was better central because pace is less important int he middle and his work rate, passing and drive showed how good he can be.  His technique is actually very good, he's got a great touch, strikes the ball clean and has the ability to make himself space in tight situations, that's all technical skills.  What he's critics focus on is inability to go past a player and then burn them for pace, which is why he's not suited to playing wde at the highest level and is why City and England have wasted him. I think he's got a simmilar skillset to Lampard, now can you imagine Lampard looking top class as a right winger?

Jordan Henderson would be a more apt comparison, think you are seriously under rating Lampard there. Henderson was out of his depth at the World Cup tactically and technically when he was shown up as an athlete rather than a footballer. Do you have any confidence that Milner would have been any better? I dont to be honest, not at that level anyway. Neither have the quick feet to turn quickly on the ball, both lack decision making on when to play it short or long and positionally both struggle. Sure they can both be very effective central midfielders in the EPL but international level and top European club football calls for a lot more.

Beckham, Ray Houghton, Nol Solano, Bernd Schneider - all names from the top of my head all were cracking wide players despite not having much pace. They had guile though which Milner for all his energy never really had.

totally wrong, I know just how good Lampard is and I think Milner playing centrally for 5-6 years would've got close the the same impact, the issue is that you're totally underrating how good Milner could've been had he played centrally for more than 1 season.  When he made mistakes in that role they were the naive kind that you'd expect for a player in a new position.  All academic as he took a different path but to say he's a similar player to Henderson is doing him a massive disservice.

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1306 on: January 21, 2015, 11:20:36 PM »
Comparing Milner and Lampard isn't a good comparison. Lampard's best attribute was his goals from midfield. Other than that he didn't do much, certainly not for England where he disappeared most of the time. Milner on the other hand never had a sustained chance to score goals from midfield but was full of energy. I thought Milner in the centre was more like Gerrard so if Milner did go to Liverpool, it would make sense if they used him in midfield.

Offline Damo70

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1307 on: January 21, 2015, 11:35:53 PM »
Still think Joel Campbell at Arsenal would be a decent striker loan if he's available.

I think I read that he was going to Socieadad for 8m, not sure if we've got that sort of money


I thought Wenger was keen on him playing out on loan in the PL.

Offline passitsideways

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1308 on: January 21, 2015, 11:43:22 PM »
Comparing Milner and Lampard isn't a good comparison. Lampard's best attribute was his goals from midfield. Other than that he didn't do much, certainly not for England where he disappeared most of the time. Milner on the other hand never had a sustained chance to score goals from midfield but was full of energy. I thought Milner in the centre was more like Gerrard so if Milner did go to Liverpool, it would make sense if they used him in midfield.

Think it's quite harsh on Lampard to suggest that he didn't do much apart from scoring goals from midfield. He created plenty of goals as well (I think he had something like 20 goals and 15 assists the last time Chelsea won the league), and was always much better with his short passing game compared to Gerrard.

I don't think comparing Milner to Henderson is a massive disservice to him either, because the latter's still only 24 and we've yet to see what he can do without having to hold Gerrard's hand all game. Certainly, he was very good last season, and I'm pretty sure that's the first time where he's played centrally game-in game-out (I'm thinking he was always moving between centre mid and right mid in his first couple of seasons at Liverpool).

Offline mr underhill

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1309 on: January 22, 2015, 05:51:11 AM »
would it not be better/easier for Milner to just have his own dedicated thread?

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1310 on: January 22, 2015, 08:49:33 AM »
would it not be better/easier for Milner to just have his own dedicated thread?

Give him his own web site. Bloody ace our Jimmy.

Waste of talent, no matter how many medals he now has.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1311 on: January 22, 2015, 09:16:10 AM »
I'm sure you're right but we have more chance of seeing Simon Cowell's real teeth than Milner re-signing for us.

Offline passitsideways

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1312 on: January 22, 2015, 09:34:54 AM »
would it not be better/easier for Milner to just have his own dedicated thread?

Give him his own web site. Bloody ace our Jimmy.

Waste of talent, no matter how many medals he now has.

What should we call it it? "The thread/website for wistfully remembering/wanking about James Milner"? Hardly a fitting tribute to the great man.

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1313 on: January 22, 2015, 09:43:40 AM »
We should go for Lavezzi on loan if he is available and they can have Agbonlahor in return ;)

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1314 on: January 22, 2015, 09:55:37 AM »
Milner has been learning Spanish for the last two years. That's my ITK.

longer than that, he was learning it whilst at villa.

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1315 on: January 22, 2015, 10:21:11 AM »
Milner has been learning Spanish for the last two years. That's my ITK.

longer than that, he was learning it whilst at villa.

He will fit in well with Sanchez and Gil then  ;)

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1316 on: January 22, 2015, 11:30:47 AM »
buen punto!

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1317 on: January 22, 2015, 12:10:26 PM »
Pase de lado , no hacia adelante !!

Offline RussellC

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1318 on: January 22, 2015, 02:17:10 PM »
Some guy who calls himself AstonVilla1874 on Twatter reckons we're signing Toure from Bordeaux this afternoon. It's spurious, I know, but at least it's a rumour.

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Re: The January 2015 Transfer Rumour Thread
« Reply #1319 on: January 22, 2015, 02:28:50 PM »
Its a bold call but probably total bollocks.


 


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