Aston Villa vs Tottenham Post-Match Thread

[pauliewalnuts]

Think that is a little harsh pauliewalnuts. We did play well today IMO, though the defence looked dodgy at times (Baker apart). The red card changed the game

One shot on target again.

It's the same thing over and over again. Something has got to change, because we're just circling the plug hole waiting to go down at the moment.

I actually thought some of the football was decent today

It was on Monday, too, but ultimately, it doesn't matter, because we took zero points from those two matches.

[Clampy]

It was the 4th official mouthing at the ref that it was a red card, but obviously he ignored the face into the head, wanker

I didn't think the 4th official was allowed to have any impact on the game, just the referee and his two assistants. I stand corrected though.

[saunders_heroes]

Well we lost again. We gave away too many corners and too many free kicks and our defending was suspect yet again.
Spurs were one of the poorest teams I've seen this season yet they still go away with 3 points in their pocket. Sorry but it's just not acceptable to the fans, but sadly it seems acceptable to our disgrace of a chairman.

Lambert/Lerner out!

[walsall villain]

With ten minutes left I actually thought we would hang on and that Spurs didn't really look like scoring. It's a cruel game, that's for sure. The high floated corner for the equaliser, was there a chance Guzan could have come for it? I was in lower Holte so hard to judge. I thought Sanchez played well but you can see he is always likely to give free kicks away in dangerous areas. So jammy with the big deflection though.
So today we were genuinely unlucky but that doesn't hide the fact that it is six on the bounce. In recent times West Ham and Newcastle have had awful runs putting their managers under pressure but both improved. I still can't see us improving enough to stay up. Anticipating we lose again next week then he will be gone.

[john2710]

Things just aren't going our way, from the so called random fixture list that gives us the top 6 teams in 7 games, I've never known any team get drawn that run of games.

Couple this with a succession of injury's to key players.

At times we don't help ourselves, the QPR performance was inexcusable.

We can't be critical of the team today but with the team down to 10 men & fighting to hang on to a lead Gabby switching off at the corner is criminal.

The real cost is losing Benteke for the next 3 games.

[villan from luton]

It was the 4th official mouthing at the ref that it was a red card, but obviously he ignored the face into the head, wanker

I didn't think the 4th official was allowed to have any impact on the game, just the referee and his two assistants. I stand corrected though.

I said exactly the same thing to my lad Clampy and said the Zidane thing, but he suggests things have changed. Sky showed the 4th official openly shouting it, wanker (not you lol)

[Ads]

Benteke another month or so on would have scored a hat trick today. Infuriating to lose him again and get nothing out of a game we were very comfortable in and well on course to winning, with Mason apparently invisible to the 4th official.

Benteke was rightly furious with missing that free header when he found himself inbetween Vertongen and Kaboul, while he had that header where Loris was completely caught out that went a whisker wide and of course he smashed the post.

We actually looked like scoring today and were the better side. Spurs huffed and puffed, but bar one Vlaar error didn't create anything from open play. Bloody officials!

[curiousorange]

Think that is a little harsh pauliewalnuts. We did play well today IMO, though the defence looked dodgy at times (Baker apart). The red card changed the game

One shot on target again.

It's the same thing over and over again. Something has got to change, because we're just circling the plug hole waiting to go down at the moment.

I actually thought some of the football was decent today

It was on Monday, too, but ultimately, it doesn't matter, because we took zero points from those two matches.

That's what's annoying - when you're in the results business, all the bellyaching in the world won't get you a single point. I had a Bitter giving it some after I posted on Facebook and I wanted to respond about them only being able to beat Leicester because of a flukey own goal, but they got three points from their game, and we didn't.

[Rudy65]

With ten minutes left I actually thought we would hang on and that Spurs didn't really look like scoring. It's a cruel game, that's for sure. The high floated corner for the equaliser, was there a chance Guzan could have come for it? I was in lower Holte so hard to judge. I thought Sanchez played well but you can see he is always likely to give free kicks away in dangerous areas. So jammy with the big deflection though.
So today we were genuinely unlucky but that doesn't hide the fact that it is six on the bounce. In recent times West Ham and Newcastle have had awful runs putting their managers under pressure but both improved. I still can't see us improving enough to stay up. Anticipating we lose again next week then he will be gone.

Unlike those two clubs it isnt just the last 6 games. Its over two years

[Rudy65]

Things just aren't going our way, from the so called random fixture list that gives us the top 6 teams in 7 games, I've never known any team get drawn that run of games.

Couple this with a succession of injury's to key players.

At times we don't help ourselves, the QPR performance was inexcusable.

We can't be critical of the team today but with the team down to 10 men & fighting to hang on to a lead Gabby switching off at the corner is criminal.

The real cost is losing Benteke for the next 3 games.

Please stop this top 6 fixture nonsense

Other teams still manage to compete against the top 6. We just plain give up and accept defeat

[LeeB]

It wasn't a red card.

It was by the laws of the game

Link?

Striking a player in the face is an automatic sending off offence

That's the interpretation.

The seven things that a player can be sent off for are:

• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)
• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving
towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a
penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same match

He'll be charged with violent conduct.

Thank you Dave, that's what I understood. The whole "he's put his hands up, he's got to go" is just a supposition imposed by shite commentators repeating each other endlessly whilst not having a fucking clue about the actual rules.

This is my point. This raising your hand is an automatic red just exists inside Jamie Redknapp's head. He's either too thick or to lazy to properly understand the rules.
If a small slap is violent conduct so is head to face, 2 footed lunge and persistent shoving. Didn't hear that mentioned though.

Innit  *nods sagely*

[rob_bridge]

Think that is a little harsh pauliewalnuts. We did play well today IMO, though the defence looked dodgy at times (Baker apart). The red card changed the game

One shot on target again.

It's the same thing over and over again. Something has got to change, because we're just circling the plug hole waiting to go down at the moment.

I actually thought some of the football was decent today

It was on Monday, too, but ultimately, it doesn't matter, because we took zero points from those two matches.

Yes - the fact doesn't change.

Some of the football at the end of BFRs reign was good in patches. Too much of it wasn't

[Lky]

I don't get the 'we played well - we were unlucky argument'. Spuds missed 3 + ? excellent chances 1st half. We didn't create anything bar the goal (although Benteke was unlucky with the shot that hit the bar). Two very poor teams today. I would hate to count the amount of sheer just simple mistakes by both sets of players. Sanchez in particular was truly abysmal - he must have 20 misplaced passes / missed tackles, basic f**k ups. The midfield is simply sh**te and if you cant defend, create or score you are doomed. Gonna have a sore head in the morning.

[KevinGage]

With ten minutes left I actually thought we would hang on and that Spurs didn't really look like scoring. It's a cruel game, that's for sure. The high floated corner for the equaliser, was there a chance Guzan could have come for it? I was in lower Holte so hard to judge. I thought Sanchez played well but you can see he is always likely to give free kicks away in dangerous areas. So jammy with the big deflection though.
So today we were genuinely unlucky but that doesn't hide the fact that it is six on the bounce. In recent times West Ham and Newcastle have had awful runs putting their managers under pressure but both improved. I still can't see us improving enough to stay up. Anticipating we lose again next week then he will be gone.

Think it would take something more like 10 defeats on the bounce, and even then I'm not sure he'd be made to walk the plank.

As it is, I reckon we'll probably scratch out a draw in either the Southampton or Wham games and that will be hailed as the end of our bad run.  Lerner was overjoyed with our majestic result against Soton in the corresponding fixture last year. Just imagine his joy if we could repeat that feat.

[Clampy]

I don't get the 'we played well - we were unlucky argument'. Spuds missed 3 + ? excellent chances 1st half. We didn't create anything bar the goal (although Benteke was unlucky with the shot that hit the bar). Two very poor teams today. I would hate to count the amount of sheer just simple mistakes by both sets of players. Sanchez in particular was truly abysmal - he must have 20 misplaced passes / missed tackles, basic f**k ups. The midfield is simply sh**te and if you cant defend, create or score you are doomed. Gonna have a sore head in the morning.

You must have been drunk if you thought Sanchez was 'truly abysmal'.